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Old 11th April 2002, 22:28
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Here is something that would make into a really interesting reading for a lot of people on this board:



Collaboration and Collusion (Truth About UPA), by Douglas Tottle:


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-Truth.html























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Old 11th April 2002, 22:49
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Here is something that would make into a really interesting reading for a lot of people on this board:



Collaboration and Collusion (Truth About UPA), by Douglas Tottle:


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-Truth.html

I have never known that AK-men used to rely on Russian WEB sites ;-)

You know, a perfect gentleman doesn’t read some things, like, say, ‘NIE’ for example…
























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Old 16th April 2002, 22:52
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Using a Russian site? The site is Polish, and it clearly says so on each page. Perhaps you mean the .ru thing? If the URL ended with a .de would that make you jump around with joy? :-)

Besides, don't forget that AK and the Soviets co-operated with each other rather extensively; so feel some respect for our former comrades and allies.



I have not read anything from NIE in the past several years.




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Old 18th April 2002, 17:54
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You are asking my why do I consider the referring to the sites like this Russian is the manifestation of the ‘mauvais ton’? The answer is very simple. Russia is one of the numberless countries where extremists banned from another states find their asylum (they were expulsed even from US). Hackers and xenophobes including. It results from the lack and weakness of legislation. Quoted by you resource is the best proof of it. In Germany similar pages would be closed very fast.

The cooperation of AK and SU has very long tradition. Its climax falls on Insurrection in Warsaw. Nice was using by RA concentration camp in Majdanek to imprison Soldiers from AK. What they did to gen. Okulicki in 1945 was typical for high caliber allies.

BTE, this site is not more Polish than certain marshal Rokosowski ;-) Sometimes it doesn’t do to be Slav to be a Pole…
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Old 22nd April 2002, 18:15
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Thumbs down "Truth about the UPS"


The tirade at this link is nothing more than the same anti-Ukrainian crap masqerading as scholership that's been thrown around since the end of WWII.
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Old 26th April 2002, 20:22
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Quit spreading your Jewish propaganda!!! If any Jews were killed they were Communist and collaberated with the Russians and deserved to die.Just as they had collaberated with the Polish during Boghdan Khleminsky time and were killed.
Claba Ykraina!!!
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Old 1st May 2002, 21:34
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First of all Bartosz, I think you have very little idea what kind of German sites that end with a ".de" are there that most certainly deserve to be taken down.


Second, taking down sites for no reason in particular (like because its URL ends with a .ru?????, you have to be kidding me! - there is no shortage of hackers either in Germany or the USA, nor there is a shortage of sites from both countries that deserve to be taken down!), has utterly nothing to do with the spirit of true freedom and democracy, a spirit to which the current Polish government (by the way, made up mostly of former commies who now kiss the asses of their Western masters ) allegedly aspires to.


Third, just what to hell is wrong with the site?



No more Polish than Rokossowski? I think that must be a compliment because Rokossowski is a Hero of Poland, who helped it get rid of Nazi scum! If not for the people like him, there would now not be a Poland, nor would there be Poles (OK, maybe some would be left, as slave labour for the Germans)!


Perhaps you should check out some of the pages first before making really mindless comments that are based solely on the ".ru" ending of the URL.




http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-Gdansk.html


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-Wyzdraw.html


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-westview.html


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-jets.html


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-losses.html


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-ZiemiLubelskiej.html


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-SynowieMazowsza.html


http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-OBAL1.html









And you say "Jewish propaganda"? Don't you say so about everything you don't like? And besides, the Ukrainian nationalists did not only mass-murdered the Jews. And if they were fighting to free Ukraine from the so-called "Jewish-Bolshevik monster" why did they use such monstrous methods? Should not they have been more decent just to show how better they are? But it looks like they were not any beter! They were just a bunch of war criminals!

Just to let you know, there are a lot of Polish authors who say the same thing! Falsely portraying blood-soaked Nazi collaborators as so-called "anti-Soviet and anti-German freedom fighters" is not an enviable job indeed!





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