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Old 16th December 2001, 17:26
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Before World War 2 Lwow was a centre of Polish culture and science. Over 50% people, who lived there were Poles. And I think, that Lwow should again belong to Poland
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Old 16th December 2001, 18:24
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the map of eastern europe was defined at yalta during ww2, with the dominating force of stalin who was in occupation of poland and all its neighbours at the time
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Old 16th December 2001, 22:47
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Some part of my family comes from Lviv, so I have my roots in this city. But I would like to underline: now Lwow is inhabited by Ukrainians, and just because of that should remain Ukrainian.

The past simply doesn’t meter. Any changes wouldn’t suit neither Ukrainians nor Poles. Let’s preserve status quo.
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Old 17th December 2001, 09:52
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Tylko we Lwowie

Border changes after WWII were a traumatic experience for all involved.

Two centerts of Polish culture, Wilno (Vilna) and Lwow were occupied and taken by the Soviet Army in 1939.

It was not fair - but life aint fair.

New generations of Lvovians and Vilnians were born.

For me that is it !!!!

The only thing left is to make sure that minorities are treated well.

Finito.

Jarema

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Bartosz, you are wrong. The past matters - it is ignorant to say otherwise.

The three questions of humanity, who am I, where do I come from and where am I going !!!!!!!
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Old 17th December 2001, 10:34
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My expirience of Lviv

I was in Lvov for some 4 or five times for the last 15 years. And stayed there for several weeks.
It was really interesting for me wether the Polish culture still dominates or not.
I visited many museums in Lvov, Zolochiv, Olesske and Dubno.
It is was a reall sorrow for me that in museums modern historians were telling me official version of Romantic Ukrainian History.
They were telling tales about ukrainian as oppressed nation. Ukrainian kossacks as knights of honour and the hero Bohdan Chmelnitsky. They feel no sympathy for the posish past of the country and praised the Cossatchinna and Indepedence.
So the memory nearly vanished. And I consider it tragic. Because in my opinion Polish culture was one of the main and most splendid in Ukraine since 17 centure till 1939.
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Old 17th December 2001, 10:46
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Re: Tylko we Lwowie

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Originally posted by Jarema
Border changes after WWII were a traumatic experience for all involved.

Two centerts of Polish culture, Wilno (Vilna) and Lwow were occupied and taken by the Soviet Army in 1939.

It was not fair - but life aint fair.

New generations of Lvovians and Vilnians were born.

For me that is it !!!!

The only thing left is to make sure that minorities are treated well.

Finito.

Jarema

PS

Bartosz, you are wrong. The past matters - it is ignorant to say otherwise.

The three questions of humanity, who am I, where do I come from and where am I going !!!!!!!

To err is human, Jarema. If I’m ignoramus just because I consider that the history should have the smallest influence on the changes of borders, so more I will simply reconsider the meaning of the word ‘ignorance’!
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Old 17th December 2001, 10:52
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Re: My expirience of Lviv

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Originally posted by zhuk
I was in Lvov for some 4 or five times for the last 15 years. And stayed there for several weeks.
It was really interesting for me wether the Polish culture still dominates or not.
I visited many museums in Lvov, Zolochiv, Olesske and Dubno.
It is was a reall sorrow for me that in museums modern historians were telling me official version of Romantic Ukrainian History.
They were telling tales about ukrainian as oppressed nation. Ukrainian kossacks as knights of honour and the hero Bohdan Chmelnitsky. They feel no sympathy for the posish past of the country and praised the Cossatchinna and Indepedence.
So the memory nearly vanished. And I consider it tragic. Because in my opinion Polish culture was one of the main and most splendid in Ukraine since 17 centure till 1939.
For the similar stupidities are (unfortunately) responsible Poles, who during over 40 years of their presence in Silesia were intensively engaged in wiping of all traces of German culture. They were not better. For over 40 years official Polish interpretation of the History was stating that Silesia (Lower included), was inhibited almost ONLY by Poles… Miserable...
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