Ukraine-Poland-Russia-Lithuania

[BlueandGold]

Originally Posted by Zbyszek

I found this old thread because it seems still actual. History should not be used to divide. Many things have changed since the medieval times.... Tuchay Bay/Batukhan posting in Ukraine.com is one of their descendants. There are still some nice wooden mosques in my country.
A lot of Polish peasants escaped persecution of the oppressive Lithuanian and Polish lords and found a good shelter in Ukraine. They loved the land and they partly assimilated. That point is often forgotten both by Ukrainians and Poles. I just want to say that history (High!Story!) includes some good and inspiring stories.

Volodya, I think that the relations between Poles and Ukrainians are improving every month and I feel personally responsible to make them better using this forum.
I question a view that Poles were the worst offenders of Ukraine. I am sure there was no greater disaster for Rus/Ukraine [KyivRus] than a Mongol "deluge" lasting for a long time and opening deep wounds that were never healed in fact.

[Edited by Zbyszek on 28th December 2002 at 12:23]

I've noticed Poland and Ukarine and the Baltic states are working better together lately thanks to Moscow's unfreezing of its planned frozen conflict zones in Georgia since August, 2008.

How I miss your words Zbyszek.

[mocny]

Originally Posted by volodymyr_gusak

Hi guy's I have just found this forum and got very engaged :-). I am just about to graduate from the United World College of the Atlantic, and here we have 70 nationalities out of 350 students. Most Understanding appears to be between us called "Easten Europeans" at the same time, I have arguments with the Russian guy etc.
From the discussion Ucraine-Poland it becomes clear that Poles in general do not like Ukrainians and vise versa, the same with Russians etc.
Why are these nations so angry with each other? Poland is developing much faster than Ukraine and Lithuania is even better. These are good news, because selfish approach never benefits anyone, but this seems to be the case with Ukrainians and Poles, WHY? Can anyone answer me?
Volodya
PS.For a little more info about me, I am Ukrainian/Russian, and stand for development in the world which should include the country I was brought up too, namely Ukraine.

Slavic people like to blame, hate one another and they are not better or worse from each other,,,,time to see unity not diversity...Poland row faster because people are very ambitious,,,but Czeks are better than Poles,,I met Slovacs who told me that they were envous so they seperated from Czeks,,and now they go to Praga and work ,,,they told me that as one country czechoslovakia they live much better than now,,,I think under Lithinians Kings Poles and Ukrainians lived better than now

[bm-21Lemko]

Originally Posted by mocny

Slavic people like to blame, hate one another and they are not better or worse from each other,,,,time to see unity not diversity...Poland row faster because people are very ambitious,,,but Czeks are better than Poles,,I met Slovacs who told me that they were envous so they seperated from Czeks,,and now they go to Praga and work ,,,they told me that as one country czechoslovakia they live much better than now,,,I think under Lithinians Kings Poles and Ukrainians lived better than now

Poland is not unified.