UKRAINIAN HISTORICAL POTPOURRI

[NORRYM]

With this post, I inagurate the new thread titled UKRAINIAN HISTORICAL POTPOURRI. Any items or issues of interest, controversial or factual, monumental or mundane, which relate to the HISTORY OF UKRAINE, shall find place on this thread.

FIRST POST: Per today's UNIAN item, dated 01/16/01, a monument, to commemorate the Ukrainian Galician Army [Ukrayins'ka Halychans'ka Armiya], will be dedicated May 5 of this year, in Lviv. The UHA, as it was known, distinguished itself indelibly in its hard-fought battles against the Bolsheviks, in the aftermath of October Revolution. My father, then a young officer in the UHA, was severely wounded in a battle, in the Kyiv Region, and survived the ordeal to continue his struggles for the cause of FREE UKRAINE.
emkay/01/16/01

[Bartosz]

Originally posted by NORRYM
With this post, I inagurate the new thread titled UKRAINIAN HISTORICAL POTPOURRI. Any items or issues of interest, controversial or factual, monumental or mundane, which relate to the HISTORY OF UKRAINE, shall find place on this thread.

FIRST POST: Per today's UNIAN item, dated 01/16/01, a monument, to commemorate the Ukrainian Galician Army [Ukrayins'ka Halychans'ka Armiya], will be dedicated May 5 of this year, in Lviv. The UHA, as it was known, distinguished itself indelibly in its hard-fought battles against the Bolsheviks, in the aftermath of October Revolution. My father, then a young officer in the UHA, was severely wounded in a battle, in the Kyiv Region, and survived the ordeal to continue his struggles for the cause of FREE UKRAINE.
emkay/01/16/01

For havens sake, Norrym, don't be so pathetic!

My grandpa (this ladies man what I have already explained to my relative on this board) served in 3 armies (of Kaiser- he fought under Verdun, in grenschutz - he fought Polish insurrectors in 1918 and in Polish army - he fought with Red Army in the years 1919 - 1921), and the most willingly he mentioned French girls and how he rushed back with his battery Russians. Nothing heroic.

My relatives were dying in Wermaht, Polish, Russian and few another armies, and the one what left in the family was respect for human living and aversion for any form of nationalism. Die for country? Artificial fertilizers are more efficient!


Say something funny about your father!

[NORRYM]

In life, there is time for reflections and there is time for farcical nonsense. Those who, as a rule, accede to the latter may be in need of a psychiatrist, rather than a thread.
emkay/01/16/01

[NORRYM]

Occasionally, this thread will serve as a WINDOW ON CURRENT POLITICS, which can be translated as a VIEW ON HISTORY IN THE MAKING.

An apropos example [of a 'window on current politics'] is Tarasiuk's comment on Ukraine's current politics. The comment appeared as a news item in today's UNIAN digest. Tarasiuk, now out of the MZS {Ministry of Foreign Affairs] office, can speak freely on Kutchma's policy of waffling between East and West. The waffling, officially referred to as the POLICY OF MULTI-VERTICALITY, is viewed negatively by Tarasiuk. It was this dependence on waffling, to accommodate Russia, that drove Kutchma to replace Tarasiuk by Zlenko.
emkay/01/17/01

[Edited by NORRYM on 17th January 2001 at 22:02]

[NORRYM]

In Great Britain, a brouhaha erupted recently around the, long ago discredited and now revived, stigma laid on the First Ukrainian Division [FUD], whose veterans are scattered across that country. The veterans, numbering now around 1,500, originally took refuge there after the WWII. The stigma, ponting an accusing finger at the FUD as a participant in some of Hitler's crimes against humanity, is marring the reputation of the FUD. The FUD veterans, in turn, are placed under the threat of renewed investigations with the associated immigrational challenges, and maybe leading to the World Court Trials. At the root of the brouhaha, is a pseudo-documentary, shown recently on one of Britain's main TV channels. The Ukrainian diaspora in Great Britain, is vocally protesting, claiming the TV presentation to be grossly distorted. The Kiev Government directed its Embassy in London to look into the matter and to suggest a course of official action. More on the subject in later posts, as the developments dictate.

emkay/01/19/01

[Edited by NORRYM on 19th January 2001 at 13:14]

[LippyChick]

Hi Norrym

The history channel program 'SS in Britain' is the subject of the topic with the same name.

The Diaspora in all countries have on numerous instances sort to defend the action of the FUD, When official charges were brought against the FUD they were three times found to be unfounded. The Diaspora in Britain has and continues to welcome a full and proper investigation, not trial by television or as is witness on this site postings of unsubstantiated evidence.

I for one would be more than happy to see this happen. An official enquiry will enable a distinction to be drawn between what the Ukrainians did in WW2 and curtail the dissemination of miss-information.

LippyChick

[NORRYM]

It was a decade ago, in 1991, that the Pope, John Paul II, renewed the UUC [Ukrainian Uniate Church] and the ULC [Ukrainian Latin Church] Hierarchies in Ukraine. Under the totalitarian regime, in the USSR, the UUC was driven into the catacombs, and the ULC was marginalized. It is befitting to remark that the continued 'catacomb status' of the UUC, in the final years of the USSR's existence, was maintained by the Politburo with direct and active support by the ROC [Russian Orthodox Church].

emkay/01/19/01