Fox News Talks About Holodomor

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Ukraine remembers famine horror
By Laura Sheeter
BBC News, Kiev

Ekaterina Marchenko is insistent.
"I can't have you leaving here hungry," she says. "Here, just have this bowl of soup, and maybe later you'll feel like having a sandwich, or a cup of tea and a piece of cake."
The hospitable 87-year-old cannot bear the thought of her guest being less than full, but then she has a horror of going hungry.
Seventy-five years ago, Ekaterina saw seven members of her family and almost all of her neighbours starve to death, in a man-made famine that killed millions of people in Ukraine.

Tree bark and roots
The "Holodomor" or "famine plague" as it is known in Ukraine, was part of Joseph Stalin's programme to crush the resistance of the peasantry to the collectivisation of farming.



“ Don't go near the priest's house either - because the neighbours there have killed and eaten their children ”
Ekaterina Marchenko recalls a warning from her mother
When in 1932 the grain harvest did not meet the Kremlin's targets, activists were sent to the villages where they confiscated not just grain and bread, but all the food they could find.

The confiscations continued into 1933, and the results were devastating. No-one is sure how many people died, but historians say that in under a year at least three million and possibly up to 10 million starved to death.
The horrors Ekaterina saw live with her still.

"We didn't have any funerals - whole families died," she tells me.
"Of our neighbours I remember all the Solveiki family died, all of the Kapshuks, all the Rahachenkos too - and the Yeremo family - three of them, still alive, were thrown into the mass grave."

Ekaterina, her mother and brother, survived by eating tree bark, roots and whatever they could find - but she says starvation drove others to terrible deeds.

"One day mother said to us, 'children, you can't take your usual shortcut through the village anymore because the grandpa in the house nearby killed his grandson and ate him - and now he's been killed by his son...
And don't go near the priest's house either - because the neighbours there have killed and eaten their children.'"

Though some, like Ekaterina, can never forget what happened, many Ukrainians had never heard of the famine until the country's independence - such was the secrecy about it during Soviet times.

But every year since independence, events to commemorate the famine get larger, and momentum is growing behind a campaign to raise international awareness of what happened

[Ak-Murza]

Originally Posted by bm-21Lemko

ok but even if you dont like Glenn Beck you have to agree that the holodmor was a horrific event.

Granted the show is portraying communism as the one at fault, but most of the facts and figures are right.

You were a Soviet marine right?

I don't like it when an openly anti-Russian neo-con fanatic sticks his nose where it doesn't belong.The only reason Beck or O,raily would talk about something like this,would be because he sees an opportunity to turn it against Russia.Holodomor was a clearly crime against humanity,just like starvation of Volga region,North Coucasus,.Same crimes,perpetrated by the same criminal,but...noone cares,Why?-Well,it happened to RUSSIANS,so why in hell anyone would care how many milloins of them were murdered......
A served in Soviet Marines,then had a tour of duty in Azerbayjany Republican Guard Volunteers during the Karabakh conflict....
keep in mind,I have NO Russian blood in me(Crimean Tatar/Ukrainian)

[bm-21Lemko]

ok yes. Glen Beck is far right


here after remembering the holodomor they also condemn the starvation in the volga.

On the 70th Anniversary of the Great Famine of 1932-1933 in Ukraine (Holodomor)[murder by hunger]

"In the former Soviet Union millions of men, women and children fell victims to the cruel actions and policies of the totalitarian regime.

The Great Famine of 1932-33 in Ukraine (Holodomor), which took 7 to 10 millions of innocent lives, became a national tragedy for the Ukrainian people. In this regard we note activities in observance of the 70th anniversary.

"Honoring the 70th anniversary of the Ukrainian tragedy, we also commemorate the memory of millions of Russians, Kazakhs, and representatives of other nationalities who died of starvation in the Volga river region, North Caucasus, Kazakhstan and in other parts of the former Soviet Union, as a result of Civil war and forced collectivization, leaving deep scars in the consciousness of future generations.

The Great Famine-Genocide in Soviet Ukraine (Holodomor)

Why do Ukrainians and other groups of the soviet union blame Russians. Ive talked to a few Armenians and ukrainians and a Moldovan(there isnt a lot of people from eastern europe where i live.) and they also blame Russians for the soviet union and suppresion of culture. Why? simple. Control in the government and use of the russian language. Supreme control resided in the soviet socialist repulblic of Russia. IF you look at any of the Former Soviet Republics what do you notice? Each country has secondary schools taught in russian and a portion of the population knows russian or is a official language of their respective country.

Ethnic Russians dominated Soviet politics and government; they also controlled local administration.

Russia - Government

[stepanstas]

Originally Posted by Ak-Murza

I don't like it when an openly anti-Russian neo-con fanatic sticks his nose where it doesn't belong.The only reason Beck or O,raily would talk about something like this,would be because he sees an opportunity to turn it against Russia.Holodomor was a clearly crime against humanity,just like starvation of Volga region,North Coucasus,.Same crimes,perpetrated by the same criminal,but...noone cares,Why?-Well,it happened to RUSSIANS,so why in hell anyone would care how many milloins of them were murdered......
A served in Soviet Marines,then had a tour of duty in Azerbayjany Republican Guard Volunteers during the Karabakh conflict....
keep in mind,I have NO Russian blood in me(Crimean Tatar/Ukrainian)

Why doesn't his nose belong there? All this time only Ukrainian's nose belonged then and now nobody knows about it and those who do deny it.

[stepanstas]

THERE IS A PETITION GOING AROUND

Looks like it's been up for a while but all should sign.

Serious scholars and respectable politicians no longer challenge the historicity of the Ukrainian famine of 1932-1933.

Unfortunately, the Ukrainian famine is not recognized as genocide by the United Nations.

In the light of new evidence cited by Italian historian Andrea Graziosi, a recognized expert on the Ukrainian famine, the Ukrainian famine will eventually be recognized as genocide because recently revealed documentation points to such a crime.

The moral responsibility of Stalin and his regime for voluntarily starving millions of innocent people cannot be denied. The monstrous loss of life, the Holodomor, was the result of criminal activity by the Soviet regime.

We, the undersigned, call on the UN to recognize that the Ukrainian famine of 1932-1933 was an act of genocide and that this genocide was directed against the Ukrainian people.

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