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Old 1st May 2009, 03:45
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WWII Carpathia

What units did Carpathian Ukrainians fight in during WWII if at all?
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Old 3rd May 2009, 05:35
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Lemkowie--W Obronie Wlasnej (Lemkos - In Their Self-Defense), by Jaroslaw Zwolinski

Anti-Hitler Lemko Resitance committee
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Old 13th May 2009, 02:36
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An interesting article, some fragments show complicated reality:

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Page 74-76. List of names of Lemkos who died during WW II from an area around Myscowa....
17 - died in the village of Romaniwka from a Ukrainian bullet, not too far from Ternopil
49 - died from UPA bullets in Tarnopil
53 - shot in Myscowa by the Ukrainian/German policeman Rusynko
75 - shot by armed Polish thieves/bandits in Myscowa
82 - died from an UPA bullet in Ukraine
83 - died from an UPA bullet in Ukraine
93 - murdered by [Polish] bandits
94 - murdered by [Polish] bandits
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Old 13th May 2009, 03:19
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Lemkos for the most part were nuetral in alignment except for the two units that were recruited by the UPA but it would seem the majority disliked the UPA and other nationalist forces.

I've tried researching to see if any joined the foreign legions of the wehrmacht. It seems the last time the Lemko military units were used was WWI and western ukrainian national government in 1920.
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Old 13th May 2009, 23:20
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Some interesting informations, but about the Transcarpathian Rusyns, not Lemkos:

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/comparati...les/darden.pdf



The contrast with the respondents in the neighboring Rakhiv region in
Transcarpathia could not have been more stark. In Transcarpathia there were no
indigenous UPA units and thus no combatants to interview.
(...)
The attitudes of the members of the local
population towards the UPA were distinctly hostile. One respondent noted with pride
that “the OUN-UPA idea was not accepted in our Rakhivsky region” and that “people did
not understand what they wanted”. The insurgents were seen as alien and threatening and
were referred to in the same terminology used by the Soviets “bandits” or “Banderovtsy”
(after the OUN leaders Stepan Bandera). Both were derogatory terms. A respondent
from the village of Bohdan, on the outskirts of Rakhiv, noted that 8 people in his village were killed in Bandera “raids” and that they came across the border to kill those who
would not support them.
(...)
There was also a markedly different reaction to the arrival of Soviet forces. One
respondent spoke of the “great happiness” (bolshaia radost) when Soviet forces arrived,
that “this small part of the nation reconnected after 1000 years with the homeland
(rodina)” – by which he meant Kievan Rus.
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Old 13th May 2009, 23:32
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I don't agree with the opinion from that source as to why the UPA did not get recruits in Transcarpathia was just because of schooling.

In my opinion i think they had problems recruiting because transcarpathians are not a 100% ukrainian which would conflict with their nationalism. Lemkos and Transcarpathians have polish roots. Thats why we are considered a sub ethnosis, but thats my opinion.

great find. Interesting research.
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Old 16th May 2009, 07:37
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I don't agree with the opinion from that source as to why the UPA did not get recruits in Transcarpathia was just because of schooling.

In my opinion i think they had problems recruiting because transcarpathians are not a 100% ukrainian which would conflict with their nationalism. Lemkos and Transcarpathians have polish roots. Thats why we are considered a sub ethnosis, but thats my opinion.

great find. Interesting research.
Souds that you are right,,Lemkos were ukrainazed many ages..Poles thougt that Lemkos are Ukrainians because of religion..This is wrong,,White Croatans found Cracov,,and people there were called Wislans,,they were Polan,s tribe,,but after invasion of Moravians ,,Wislan runaway to Karpaty,,,in Slovakia they call them Rusnaks because of religion,,They call themselves Lemki now...Lemka or Polana means land of grass,,They backgroud is from polish Wislans,,,
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