Schab/Brygider families in Ukraine?

[XeniaUkraina]

Hello everyone,
I am new here, but I like what I have read in the genealogy department. I want to say also that Hannia is amazing in the help that she provides! I hope I will be able to get such good help!

I have only been researching my family history for about a year, and have managed to find out a fair bit, but I am starting to have some difficulty, now that I need to find out about the 'old country'.

Is anyone on here familiar with the Schab or Brygider names from the Jabluniv/Suchostaw region of Ukraine?? The Schab family (Dmetro and Ahaphia and kids) immigrated to Canada in 1900 and Stephan W. Brygider immigrated to Canada in 1912.

I hope someone can guide me here.And if you need to know more,let me know!

Thanks in advance

[Hannia]

In present day Ukraine selo/village Yabluniv is located in Husyatynskij (Husyatyn) raion/district > Ternopilska (Ternopil) Oblast/Region > Ukraine (abbr UA), w/latest zip code for village = 48255. The name of village means APPLE TREES and is a very common village name throughout Ukraine.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/print.a...CgxD9kvg%3d%3d

From late 18th century to 1919 this area (today Western Ukraine & SE Poland) was called Galycia/HALYCHYNA Province, administered by ethnic Poles for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Immigration records would read family coming from Austria. After WW1, 1919-1939, this area came under Poland's domain. Immigration Records during this time frame, from this specific region, would have read Poland.

As per Brian Lenius' Galician Gazetteer, Jablonow (Polish name) had a mix of Ruthenian/Ukrainian & Polish population, with both a Greek and Roman Catholic church of its own. LDS has RC records for Parafia (Parish) Jablon-Brodnica for 1784-1870. There are also some later RC records as well. (At one time some RC villagers also used Chortkiv church???)

FamilySearch.org - Family History Centers
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Libr...ameset_fhc.asp

I cannot locate Greek Catholic Y(J)abluniv records (specifically from Husyatyn district). Link below lists Jabluniv, but does not provide district.

Scroll all the way down and click on INDEX LIST. Using those film numbers, double check for district thru your local LDS ofc.
Galicia - vital records
http://lemko.org/genealogy/galiciapl.html
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Records for 1918-1939 -
Administrative District for Yabluniv was Kopyczynce.

[XeniaUkraina]

Thanks for the information on Jabluniv, Hannia.
I have been very confused about the different Oblasts and such-every website seems to say something slightly different about which towns had which government. I suppose considering the history of Ukraine,it nearly changed on a daily basis!

From what I understand,my Schab side was Ukrainian Greek Catholic-my great grandfather helped found a church of that religion in his community.
My Brygider side was Orthodox.

Are my family names familiar to you at all Hannia? Any idea what the meanings of the names are?

[Hannia]

Schablewsky was a fairly common surname in Ternopil region.

The root Schablia means Sword/Saber.

Keep in mind that in Eastern Europe occupational surnames developed in the 14th century.

Take a closer look at 13th/14th century in Ternopil Region. Your ancestral surname evolved against the historical backdrop of Tartar-Mongol and Polish invasions.

My guess is that Brygider has possible Prussian or Austrian origins meaning Brigadier. Root, Bryhada (Ukrainianized from Germanic???), means BRIGADE or SQUADRON.
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If LDS doesn't work out for you, consider using the direction suggested to lan2 in thread below.

[XeniaUkraina]

That is wonderful information, Hannia!

I wondered what the origins of our names might be. Some names are pretty easy to pick out, but not ours.(Knowing how well our families get along,the warrior reference may be truer than you think!!!)

I will try out LDS and the FamilySearch.I need to attend a genealogy meeting in our community. I kind of reached a dead end with my search,it is motivating to have some fresh information.

On the topic of names...My great grandmother's maiden was Kulwatski/Kylewitski. I cannot find any info on that name. Again, she would have been from the same region. Can you help?

Thank you so much for your help so far.

[fenwood52]

Xenia

I spent 3 wks in Ukraine in September mostly around Ivanivka
See Hannias map. We took a trip to visit another branch of the family at a small village near Kopcyncil Looks like we would have passed through Yabluniv. Its pretty country. I took Hannias advice writing to the mayor of Ivanivka looking for family and was successful. You might want to try that!

Victor

[XeniaUkraina]

Thanks Victor,
Its nice to hear about things that have worked for others. I will try writing to the mayor of Yabluniv!

I want to go to Ukraine one day too...hopefully soon.

Christine

P.S. I can't help but wonder...are you from Sask.,Victor?
fenwood, 52- rings a bell..