lost in ukraina

[ukebandit]

as everyone else in from the village of the diaspora ,i too am looking for relatives or family in western ukraine. my father was born in the village of rohatyn,ternopil region. my last name is iwanyshyn/ivanyshyn. my mother was born in stryj. her family name is bleschiw. i know both came from large families any help would be kindly accepted. also does any one feel that a five weeks of vacation?? would be too much and prohibitve in ukraine i am giving serious thougt of going there in may 2k5. thank you

[Hannia]

Both Rohatyn and Strij were/are district center towns. Immigrants frequently referred to their district centers as places of origin for geographical reference, because their own villages were small.

Have you documented that your parents were born in Rohatyn and Strij, both fair size towns?

Rohatyn at the end of the 20th century had a population of about 7/8 thousand. This district is in Ivano Frankivska Oblast today. According to Ellis Island the Iwanyshyn surname does show up in village/selo Bukachivtsi> Rohatynskij District???

Strij, also a district center, had appx 24 thousand residents at the turn of the last century. Today it is still a district center in the Lvivska Oblast/Region.

Each of these two district centers is surrounded by 30/40 villages.

When did your parents immigrate and where did they settle upon immigration?

PS>Chances are, both your ancestral families were of Boiko extraction???

[ukebandit]

thank you hannia you are truly a wealth of info. your service is invaluable. my parents were forced labores in germany during WW11. they met in DP camps? my father told me that his father emigrated to new york circa 1918...1923 he also was told his father died in railroad accident and his mother recieved compensation.we emigrated to usa in 1951 my father spoke of rohatyn celo and refered to "Berezhany Region" he also derided my mother for me a "dorna boyko" lol,hope this helps put my parents are reluctant to speak of the past.

[ukebandit]

Thank you Hannia. You are a great wealth of information for this site. I thank you for all of your assistance. My parents were forced laborers in Germany, Barvaria. I believe they met in a DP camp. My father states that his father, my grandfather, immigrated to New York circa 1918. Unfortunately he died in a railroad accident. My grandmother received some compensation. My parents and I immigrated to USA from western Germany in September, 1951. My father spoke of Rohatyn Celo, and spoke of the Berezhany district. Unfortunately, my parents are reluctant to speak about their life in Ukraine. They claim that most of their family was killed in the war. I hope that this helps. Thank you, Ukebandit.

[Hannia]

I was born in Corenburg, so I fully understand what it is like growing up w/parents who had buried their pain so deep, that talking was/is not an option.

There will come a time when you will be able to open up your parents' history book.

Upon immigration to States, all Displaced People had to fill out personal questionnaires. Their entire German experience is in those questionnaires. Much personal detail re family in Ukraine is there as well. You need a privacy release or a death certificate in order to obtain a copy.

As per this link, you can see that Rohatyn was/is a town.

ROHATYN - ROGATIN - ROGATYN. TOWN INFORMATION PAGE. Rohatyn is small town in northern part of Ivano-Frankivsk region in Weste..
http://www.personal.ceu.hu/students/...ii/rohatyn.htm

Photos from Stryy--September, 2000
http://home.nc.rr.com/mkalt/stryy/pictures.html

These are most of the villages in Strij District:
Banya-Lycovetska
Berezhnytsia
Bratkivtsi
Velyki Didushytsi
Verkhnya Lukavytsia
Verkhnya Stynava
Verchany
Vivnya
Volya-Zaderevatzka
Hirne
Holobutiv
Hrabovetz
Dashava
Dobrivlyany
Dobryany
Dovhe
Dobholuka
Dolishnye
Duliby
Zhulyn
Zavadiv
Zahirne
Yocypovychi
Kavske
Konyukhiv
Lany-Sokolivski
Lanivka
Lysovychi
Lycyatychi
Lyubyntsi
Mali Didushychi
Myrtyuky
Morshyn
Nezhukhiv
Nyzhhnya Stynavna
Oleksychi
Pyatnychany
Pidhirtsi
Podorozhnye
Pukenychi
Rozhirche
Semyhyniv
Sykhiv
Slobidka
Stankiv
Strij
Stryhantsi
Strylkiv
Uhersko
Falysh
Khodovychi

You could try running these names past your Mother and see what kind of response you get.
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Rohatyn was once called Babyntsy.

What was Grandfather's given name?

Chances are you still have surviving maternal & paternal family in your ancestral villages and/or nearby large town.

[Hannia]

I happened to have read your post re providing some assistance to someone in Ternopil. My first thought was why not family, because it is highly likely that there is still surviving family there.

There is a Rohachyn / Rohaczyn ( пНЦЮВХМ ) in the Berezhanskij raion/district > Ternopilska Oblast/Region > Ukraine, newest zip code is 47520.

You could write the Village mayor and make an inquiry re any surviving family still in Rohachyn. How is your Ukrainian?

PS> If you cannot view Cyrillic, place your cursor anywhere on this window where it is blank. Right click once. Left click ENCODING. Left click CYRILLIC WINDOWS.

[Hannia]

This could very well be one of those odd coincidences, nothing more.

As per Ellis Island Records, there is a Hawrylo Jwanyszyn (32 yrs old & married) immigrating in 1907 to East Houston Street, NYC. This was his second trip. He was meeting up w/his cousin Fekso (illegible, actually Oleksa from selo Jushkowice, appx 16 miles NW of Rohachyn) Klopko. Hawrylo's first trip was in 1904. He was coming from Werbiv/VERBIV, Austria (Austro-Hungarian Empire). He left his wife Paranka Iwanyszyn behind in village.

Did Hawrylo make another trip in 1918???

Jwanyszyn is an obvious error in transliteration of Iwanyszyn/Iwanyshyn.

About 5 miles NNE of Rohachyn, there is a selo named VERBIV > Berezhanskij District.
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1918 November 1st. Railway Crash Brooklyn, outside Malbone tunnel: Derailment of a Rapid Transit train due to numerous safety violations; 97 people died, 95 others were injured
http://www.emergency-management.net/ny_di.htm


[Edited by Hannia on 4th February 2006 at 19:32]