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Old 16th April 2004, 00:24
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Hi, Looking for anyone who has infomation, especially you Hanna, since you are a marvel, on the surnames, WYSLOC'KYJ, STAFINIAK, GOGOC, ROSTOCKA, FERENCZAK, CHYLIAK, PELAK,POLYNIAK. I have traced my grandparents but know very little about them. Grandfather Petro Wysloc'kyj son of Constantinus Wyslock'y (Laurentis Wysloc'kyj and Magdalena Ferenczak) and Julianna Gogoc (Artemis Gogoc and Maria Chyliak)married Anna Stafiniak (Stephani Stafiniak and Maria Rostocka)

The Wysloc'kyjs were from Kotiw, Nowy Sancz in present day Poland, but I know nothing about which village my grandmother was from. They spoke Lemko and also intermarried into the Polyniak and Pelak families. Help anyone who can.

P.S. My granfather was born about 1885, I know I know.
The Rostocka name is the real killer. Thanks!
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Old 16th April 2004, 07:05
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Turn of the century Kotiv (Rusyn)/Kotow (Polish) > Novy Sacz >Western Galicia> Austro-Hungarian Empire> today Novy Sacz is in SE Poland. Kotiv was distinctly a Lemko village. At the turn of the century there were about 300 Lemko/Greek Catholic souls living there. There were no Roman Catholics or Jews listed as residing in the village at that time.

The Wyslocki/Wislocki/Vyslotsyj, the Ferenczak, the Pelak/Pielak/Peljuk, the Poloniak/Polomiak/Polojak & the Starenti/Starnekyj families can be documented in Kotiv (Rusyn)/Kotow (Polish) back in 18th century. Kotiv did not have its own church. The filial church was in Labova. There the Wyslocki's and Pelaks can be documented to 17th century. It was Wasyl Wyslocki that was instrumental in bringing the church to Labova in 18th century. Up to then, the locals attended the church in Matijewa. It was the Pokrova Church in Matijewa that had records going back to 17th century. The other filial villages to Labova were Labovets and Uhryn.

The Carpatho-Rusyn Knowledge Base
http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/

Luckily for you all these villages were a part of the Lemko Apostolic Administration and chances are exc that church records can be found at the Przemysl Archives. There is nothing available thru LDS as far as I know.

State Archive in Przemysl - home page
http://www.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/ev/

Historical Shematism of the Eparchy of Peremyshl.....
http://www.lemko.org/religion/shematism/index.html

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As per Ellis Island there is a 25 yr old Julianna Gogoc, immigrating to New York and heading for Great Neck LI in 1906. She is listed as coming from Kamien, Galicia. One can also find Tekla, Theodosia and Nastia (nickname for Anastasia) Gogoc also coming from Kamien. THE ORIGINAL SHIP MANIFEST IS WHERE THE REAL INFO CAN BE FOUND.

http://www.ellisisland.org/

Kamjana (Lemko village)> Grybow District >today in SE Poland???
You will find the Gogoc/Gogocz/Gogoch surname in Kamjana going back to 18th century.

http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/new/

Make sure to check all your surnames against the villages I have mentioned above.
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Some additional links of interest???

1549
http://kingpopiel.tripod.com/english/1549.htm

You can purchase pictures of Kotow and Labova here.
http://www.village.sk - photos from Europe.
http://www.village.sk/references.html


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Old 17th April 2004, 15:35
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Talking Stafiniak, Rostocka

Dear Hannia, Thank You for responding so quickly, you have certainly given me some work to do! I did know about the church but thanks to you I now have the time frame to continue tracing ( which churchs in what years) and some great new sites to explore!

I was refering to the Stafiniak line (my direct grandmother)
My uncle seems to think that they were from Chachiv but I can find no record of them there. It's odd because my grandmother Anna had 6 brothers. I surmise that some of them had to survive to adulthood. Then there is her mother Maria Rostocka (I'm not convinced she was Lemko at all) but cannot find any listing for that name except on Polish sites and then it's just a mention no info.

There was a Pawel Wysloc'kyj that came to the States from Kotiw, he is my grandfathers brother, I did find one on the Ellis Island site but cannot be sure if this was my grand uncle because many Lemko families had sons and that (Petro, Pavlo) comes up more often than not.

An interesting tid bit for your amusement...
My grandfather Petro came to the States to work in the coal mines and here met Anna's (his future bride) grandfather, (which I don't know...Stafiniak or Rostockij) He told Petro that he has a girl for him (his grand daughter) and Petro went back and married her! What's the best is that eventually one of their children Tekla (my mom) emigrated to Pennsylvania 50 years later and her daughter Lesia (thats me) accidentally named her daughter Julianna before she started the geneological search. It's a vicious cycle. Thanks again, for all your help!!

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Old 17th April 2004, 15:54
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Leslie,

Chachiv had no Greek Catholic Church of its own. Church records can be found in Matijewa, about 2.5 kms away.
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Old 17th April 2004, 16:26
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I do not have a Lemko Heritage, but I have found Lemko music nourishing.

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http://www.lemko.org/music.html


PS> I suspect that your are right about the Rostockij's. Bare in mind that there were about 30+ Roman Catholics (probably Poles) living in the village. Ironically, the surname (probably) means someone from where the river branches into streams. Rostocki strikes me as one of those RECENT HERALDRY SURNAMES, the kind paid for in earlier 18th century. These were somewhat bourgeoisie, but with no wealth to speak off, except a few extra hectares of land. By the end of the 18th century one in six Poles was a member of szlachta/Polish nobility. Might be worth checking out.

On the other side you also have the Wyslockij's, that were influential enough to found a church in Labova.

Info above provides a somewhat socio-economic portrait of your ancestors. You might want to pick up more reading material regarding Lemko village structure and life.

[Edited by Hannia on 17th April 2004 at 19:22]
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