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Old 8th January 2004, 07:48
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Well, it's a long shot, but are any of you that are or know of anyone from the Yachimirski family? My last name should be Yachimirski but it was changed by the Canadian government when my family emigrated here. I've heard that there are Yachimirskis in the Kyiv area and Moscow.
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Old 8th January 2004, 09:25
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Slavic names were often misspelled/mistransliterated and could have originated from many different places. Information about where the family came from will be found in documents and sources created after emigration.
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Yachimirski = Jacimirski??? JA = YA sound using Cyrillic Alphabet. Does the name Stefan (later anglicized to Steve???) Yachimirski/Jacirmirski ring a bell?

As per Ellis Island, in April 1914, a 32 yr old, Filip Jacimirski, arrived in New York City. He was headed for Quebec/Montreal to meet up w/his brother Stefan Jacimirski. I suspect he never made it, because his name was crossed off??? He haled from Staro Uszjce, Russia, leaving his wife Paraska behind in village.
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Do you have any idea what European port of exit was used by your family? Was it Hamburg or Bremen?

When did your family arrive in Canada? How is it that their name was changed? Transliterated badly is one thing, but you say it was changed???

Was the family Orthodox or Roman Catholic?
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PS>I am guessing that Filip Jacimirski hailed from from a village in Kamenets-Podolskij Uezd/District>Podolia Gubernia>Czarist Russia = today village/selo still exists and is called Stara Ushytsya> Kamenets Podilskij Raion>
Khmelnitska Oblast>Ukraine, latest zip code for village is 32385. Podolia Guberniya abutted Kievskaya Guberniya.
Head of Stara Ushytsya Village Council is V. Yurchuk.

[Edited by Hannia on 8th January 2004 at 12:57]
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Old 9th January 2004, 01:15
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That's amazing! I looked around on the internet using all the variations of the name I could but didn't get all that much. My great grandpa was Stefen. I understand he was quite young when his brothers sent him to live in Canada while they continued in the military so they changed our name to Simbirski because they couldn't understand what he was saying. I didn't know anyone else came to North America from the family. I got a few sheets from my aunt, who's the family historian, about Stefen, his parents, and his brothers. Unfortunately I can't find them at the moment.

There was a Yachimirski who went to Moscow to become a doctor in the 1960s and my parents tell me there's at least one in the Kyiv area at the moment.

Stefen hailed from a village in western Ukraine and either his father or one of his brothers was the mayor after a distinguished military career.

Could you tell me how you got this information? There are a few other family members I'd like to look up.

Thank you Hannia!
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Old 9th January 2004, 05:10
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I didn't know anyone else came to North America from the family.
I am not sure, but I don't think that Filip made it out of Triest (exit port). His name was crossed off. Probably went back home. There were a few guys coming from the village at the same time. His name is the only one crossed out.

my parents tell me there's at least one in the Kyiv area at the moment.
I did a telephone directory search for Yachimirski surname in Kiev & Kievska Oblast/Region. I found no one residing there w/that surname. It is possible that they might be living in a village w/o a telephone. Ukraine is predominantly a non-digitized world. Once you've located family in ancestral village, you should be able to get info re ??? residing in Kievska Oblast.

Stefen hailed from a village in western Ukraine and either his father or one of his brothers was the mayor after a distinguished military career.
I guess Podolia Guberniya>later Khmelnytska Oblast could be considered Western Ukraine, although among the natives, this region might be considered part of Eastern Ukraine>formerly Czarist (Southern) Russia, frequently referred to as Velyka Ukraina (Big Ukraine).

Oblast Click Map
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukrwgw/oblastclickmap.html

Mayor of village???
Records probably in State Archives for Khmelnystka Oblast or in local RAHS (District Civilian Records).

Could you tell me how you got this information?
Stay very flexible. Do not use given names. Make sure to click off gender, or else nothing will come up. Give yourself lots of flexibility on dates, notwithstanding what family history states. Under ethnicity make sure to click off Russian, Polish & Ruthenian.
Searching Ellis Island Database in One Step
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html

I found nothing (in telephone directory) for surname in Moscow or surrounding area.

I have a bit of a geology interest and a few yrs ago I had the optie to be in your ancestral area. Coincidentally I also got to attend the Cossack Games in Kamenets Podilskij at the time. What a fabulous place and a memorable time!

<Kamenets Podolsky (also Kamenec-Podilski) is a city situated in western part of Ukraine, Eastern Europe. It's got its ancient structures back in XVI century, when there was a war between Turkey, Poland and Ukraine.
Standing high on the bank of the Smotrich River you can take in the breathtaking details of the inimitable panorama - high fortress walls, towers and domes of ancient structures amid the lush greenery. The Old Fortress, the Russian and Polish estates and gates, the Cathedral and Dominican Catholic churches, the town hall, the Armenian well and bastion - these very names breathe of history.

Flowing to the south to join the Dnester, the river Smotrich winds across the Volhynian - Podolian highland, and on the territory of present-day Kamenets-Podolsky it makes a loop which encompasses the Old City. Archeological finds provide evidence that people have settled in this area from unmemorable times. In the first century A.D. the territory of the future Kamenets-Podolsky and its environs was inhabited by the tribes of Chernyakhovsk culture, whose main occupation was agriculture. Roman coins of the 2nd - 3rd centuries A.D. found in this area point to commercial and cultural ties the local population maintain with the inhabitants of the Northern Black Sea Maritime Region and Roman provinces.>

Right click on individual pix and take a close up look at these photos.

The Cradle Of History - Kamenets Podolsky Photo Gallery Site News
http://www.geocities.com/kamenets/gallery.html

cossack
http://www.wumag.kiev.ua/wumag_old/a...98/cossack.htm

PS>Make sure to find that family list!!!! If Filip is on it, as one of Stefan's brothers, then you have the name of your GGrandfather's place of origin.
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Old 9th January 2004, 06:54
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I guess I have to pay money to use the Ellis Island website. Oh well. I'm assuming the Yachimirskis of Kyiv and Moscow regions moved elsewhere. I believe it was Khmelnytska Oblast that the Yachimirskis were from, and it was probably there that they governed the village. Stefen remembered swimming in the Dneister as a child. I've heard things about some of my ancestors long ago being cossacks too! If you don't mind I'd like to get back to you once I find the rest of those sheets or am able to contact my aunt. I plan on visiting Russia and Ukraine soon and it would certainly be interesting to meet some long lost relatives. I find history, Slavic culture and geneology fascinating, so I thank you for the websites and all the information.
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Old 9th January 2004, 09:31
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Nick,

Ellis Island is a free site. Don't be thrown by the request for donations. It's not mandatory.

The Morse URL I posted is a link which helps one search Ellis Island w/its many transliterations.

Many times what I do is use the Morse site for ascertaining spelling variants of surname, and then applying surname to official site below. Make sure to examine ORIGINAL SHIP MANIFEST/handwritten copy. That is where all the details can be found.

American Family Immigration History Center
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/in...6740052753504&
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Once you get in touch w/family in Khmelnitska Oblast, chances are they will know where to get in touch w/family that emigrated to Russia and/or moved to Kiev.

Consider writing village administrator and inquiring re surviving relatives still residing in village. If you need help w/correspondence let me know. Several of our members might be able to help.

Holovi Silskoji Rady
V. Yurchuk
selo Stara Ushytsya
Kamenets Podilskij Raion
Khmelnitska Oblast
UA 32385
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I will be more than happy to help you once you find the list.

According to my map, Stara Ushytsya sits directly on the Dniester River.
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Old 9th January 2004, 16:52
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Hello Nick and Hania,

If Jacimirski is possible spelling of the surname, then its Ukrainian equivalent is ßöèì³ðñüêèé for males, and ßöèì³ðñüêà for females.

I did google search with this Ukrainian spellin and there are 11 hits.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search

For example, at
http://www.geocities.com/v_zaitsev99/ischenko.html
There is mentioning of article written by Yatsymirskyj V.K. (now I transliterate back to English using current rules for it), published in Herald of Kyiv National University, chemistry section. So this person worked in Kyiv University.

ßöèì³ðñüêèé Â.Ê., Îëåêñåíêî Â.Ï., Äåì÷åíêî Ï.²., Áîëäèðºâà Î.Þ., ²ùåíêî Â.Á. Ñîðáö³éí³ âëàñòèâîñò³ ïåêòèíîâèõ ðå÷îâèí. - ³ñíèê Êè¿â. óí-òó. Õ³ì³ÿ. -1998, âèï.35. - Ñ.20-22.


Next: http://www.cdu.edu.ua/py/index.py?st...-ukrMovozn-det
This is page from Cherkasy National University, department of Ukrainian linguistics.
It states that this department is one of the oldest at that University, and the first chairman of this department was Yatsymirskyj B.M.

Next: http://www.polynet.lviv.ua/Institute...aff/lashko.htm
Page from University “Lviska Politechnika”, more known as Lviv Polytechnic Institute.
Here there is indication to paper published by Yatsymirskyj M.M

Ëàøêî Î.Ë. ßöèì³ðñüêèé Ì.Ì. Åôåêòèâí³ àëãîðèòìè ìîäóëüîâàíîãî ïåðåòâîðåííÿ ç ïåðåêðèòòÿì // Çá³ðíèê íàóêîâèõ ïðàöü "Ìîäåëþâàííÿ òà ³íôîðìàö³éí³ òåõíîëî㳿", Êè¿â,2000.

Next: http://www.tru2003.8m.net/committee_u.html
Page from the second International Congress in town Truskavets’ (Lviv region).
Member of organizational committee: Yatsymirskyj M.M (doctor of technical siences)

Next : http://neurnews.iu4.bmstu.ru/conf/konfukr1.htm
Also indication of professor Yatsymirskyj M.

http://www.lipb.lviv.ua/UA/Novosti/9travnya/9trav.htm
This page gives the description of the Victory Day at one of Lviv institutes. There is indication to Yatsymirskyj Yosyp Ivanovych


Search for females:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%A...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


http://vlada.kiev.ua/ums/serj/human/0132962.htm
Yatsymirska Maria Hryhorivna, PhD in philological schience, Lviv national University named after Ivan Franko, chairwoman of the department of language of mass media. Born in 1955. Phone number (380) 322-79-4751
Vice dean of the department of Journalism.

Other links are also for her except
http://edu.ukrsat.com/sh31/
Here is the site from primary school in Lyiv, and there is Yatsymirska T.B. (class Artistic Embroidery)


Using Polish language search for Jacimirski
http://www.google.com/search?q=Jacim...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
There are 43 hits.
One of the pages there indicates that Jacimirski were Polish nobility.


At Ellis Island there is also
http://ellisisland.jewishgen.org/Gen...50&BSYR=&BEYR=

Jacimirski Timozens (Tymish, Tymophiy most probably), immigrated in 1912 from Rornalaric, Austria, 22 years old. Most probably town name is not spelt correctly, but I cannot read it for sure from original manifest. He is Rusenian (Ukrainian), went to Philadelphia.

Hope this will help.

Vitaliy
vivandr@brandeis.edu
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