Looking for three family names & relatives in UKR

[ricardo]

These are Khmelnyk, Sokoluk, Spasiuk
Any clues as to where they're likely to originate from
The last two settled in Argentina before the WW2 the first one in Australia after WW2
oops! All of them Orthodox
thanks

[Hannia]

Hello Ricardo,

Sorry could not get back to you sooner.
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If your purpose is to locate surviving relatives by examining linguistic roots, then you are wasting your time. Ukrainian history, especially its more recent Soviet past, works against you in using this approach.

There are some excellent books re the Ukrainian surname subject that I can recommend, but will they help you accomplish what you want to do. I very much doubt it.

Bibliography for Ukrainian and Eastern European Genealogy
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukrwgw/books.htm

I can tell you in very general terms that surnames w/the suffix IUK/UK were more common to Vohlyn & Podolia area, and that surname Khmelnyk/Chmelnyk was not uncommon in the Belarusan area. Khmelnyk/Chmelnyk is a surname that can be either Christian or Jewish.
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Who are these people in relationship to you?

Do you have given names?

Post WW2 DP (Displaced People) Immigration to Australia took place mainly in the early fifties. The Australian Archives has an excellent service thru which to do searches. You mentioned that Argentinean Immigration took place prior to WW2. Approximately when? Was it at turn of century or the thirties?

Get as much oral history together as you can. Are there any elders that you can ask? Call everyone in family, including those you might not have spoken to in a long time. Ask that everyone look in their attics for old documents. Sometimes the most trivial piece of information can become a major clue.

The key to locating surviving relatives lies in establishing the EXACT Date and Place of Birth for first immigrant.

I will be more than happy to help you.

I just need better information from you.

[Hannia]

"Origins and Meaning of Ukrainian Surnames" compiled by Gregory Gressa from texts by Jeff Picknicki, University of Manitoba, and additionally, works of John-Paul Himka & Frances A. Swyripa, University of Alberta as well as other contributors.

Ukrainian Book Store, 10215 97th St. Box 1640, Edmonton, Alberta Canada T5J 2N9 Phone: 780 422 4255 Fax: 780 425 1439 e-mail: ukrbkst@planet.eon.net

http://www.ukrainianbookstore.com/

PS> Gregory Gressa is in the process of compiling Carpatho-Rusyn surnames online:
Carpatho-Rusyn Surname Listing-Alphabetical
http://www.rusyn.com/crslalpha.htm

[Hannia]

Started to see what I could see re Ukrainian Argentinean Immigration.

Turn of century. Most Ukrainian immigrants to Argentina settled in Province of Misiones. They were primarily from Vinnitska thru Ternopilska areas, which would also include what is Khmelnitska Oblast today.

Most used Buenos Aires as port of entry.

Found this in my wonderings.

Missing Uncle
Author: William Sokolik Date: 9 Jan 2000 12:00 PM GMT
Surnames: Sokolik
Classification: Query
Board: Localities > South America > Argentina > General
Roman Sokolik immigrated to Argentina during the mid-1920s from Ternopol Oblast, Ukraine(at that time under Polish government). His fathers name was Paul. He worked in the mining industry. It is not known whether he married in Argentina and had children. Is there a record of immigration, naturalization or death?


Won't do any more, until I hear from you.

[Edited by Hannia on 15th January 2002 at 12:55]

[ricardo]

Thanks Hannia a very comprehensive report I really appreciate and must admit and strongly belive my father does come Volinia more precisely Kremenets area as stated in his Polish army book also makes sense with my mother's town of Pochai though he said he was from Zhitomyr when the Czar's army picked him up and transported him south towards Volinia in the winter of 1914.
The other two are my Godfhater and a very good friend all of them of Orthodox religion.
I'll check out those links to try to shed some more info and if there is anyomre survivors especially from my mother's side Czuch which I don't know anything at all, apparently she had a small family but they all perished in WW2 but I believe from my Dad side I may still have some relatives.

[Hannia]

ISTG - Various European Ports Departures
http://istg.rootsweb.com/v4/departur...variousv4.html

[MidwayDave]

HANNIA

You seem to be an expert on this geno stuff. How about you moving to Croatia and trace all my Bozicevich's and Vrancic's for me.