Relatives in Kamyanka

[BillZ]

Hello All

My maternal grandparents came from Kamyanka in Skalat district. Grandfather John Polisczuk b. 6 June 1883 and grandmother Malanka Romanczuk, b 13 January 1893. Grandfather arrived in Canada 1911, grandmother arrived in 1914. Any help locating relatives would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Vasyl

[Hannia]

The village (Kamenki 49.33N-26.01E) still exists today!

MapQuest : Printer-Friendly Street Map
http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_f...8w1sd67_1y7ngz,bb6%7c_%3d%3a%28_%3dw1sd67_1y7ngz%28l%241w-u.wf7%3bxcx5sf7.grfe%7cs

Above info can be verified by using these 2 links.

Ukraine Town Location Guide
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukrwgw/ukrainetown.html#step1

JewishGen ShtetlSeeker - Town Search
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm

What you can do with this info? Write the Ternopilska Oblast Archives and get any documents available for both surnames. The avg cost per surname is about $50 American. There is no prepayment! They will notify you as to what kind of info is available and what the cost of search and copies will be. They will also provide you with their bank acct number. You simply deposit funds thru a large local bank and two weeks later you will have the copies. This will not only provide you w/documentation for your genealogical records, but also with some very valuable information for your search for surviving relatives. You will have the patronymics (given names of Great Grandparents) and names of all siblings, and maybe even the house address. Once you have all this info, write the village mayor. Provide him with the info you have (patronymics important here) and ask if there are any surviving relatives living in the village. If there are, ask him to pass the letter on. Kamenki is a small village. I know quite a few people that have had success doing this. Although the following link suggests using Ukrainian, English or German work as well. Do not forget to include 2 IRC's. Intl Response Coupon, which can be purchased at local post ofc at nominal cost. Given the economics of the country, the IRC's will help expedite any response. When addressing envelopes to Ukraine, make sure to print Ukraine in large letters on very bottom left or right of envelope, for use by your own postal authority. You don't want them to get confused as to where the letter is heading.

Oblast address taken from following link. ZIP CODE HAS CHANGED. New zip below. I have also included the latest fax number for them. No E-mail address available yet. Link is worth a read thru.

MAIN UKRAINIAN ARCHIVES' ADDRESSES
http://lemko.org/genealogy/oblasts.html

UKRAINA
46001, Ternopil
vul. Sahaidachnoho, 14
Derzhavnyi Arkhiv Ternopilskoi Oblasti
Director: Bohdan Khavarivsky
fax # (0352) 22-86-18

Address to Village mayor:

UKRAINA
Ternopilska Oblast
Pidvolochyskij Raion
selo Kamenki
Holowa Sela

PS>The archival process can take up to 2/3 months, so be patient. Good Luck!!!

[Hannia]

Kamenki> now Pidvolochyskij Raion/District> Ternopilska Oblast/Region> Ukraine

[Hannia]

Always good to double check and then triple check the next day. These village searches can be tricky.

Using Shtetlseeker's DISTANCE search on bottom and Skalat's longitude & latitude, doing a 20 mile search & inserting Letter K for first letter of surrounding villages.

JewishGen ShtetlSeeker - Town Search
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm

Kamyanka can be
KAMENKI (49.33N-26.01E) 8.2 miles N of Skalat>> now Pidvolochyskij Raion> Ternopilska Oblast> Ukraine

Kamnyanka can also be
KAMENKA (49.14N-26.17E) 19.3 miles SE of Skalat>> now Horodotskij Raion> Khmelnytska Oblast>Ukraine

Luckily both villages still exist, although in different oblasts. Unfortunately there is no way to check the net for what village was formerly part of the Skalat Raion. Do an archival search in both places. You will not have to pay for the search, if they cannot locate info for you. Have included new mail zip in address for you. There is also an e-mail address.

UKRAINA
29000, Kamianets-Podilskyi
vul. R. Liuksemburh, 15
Derzhavnyi Arkhiv Khmelnytskoi Oblasti
Director: Petro Slobodyaniuk

E-Mail kpmda@pku.kp.km.ua

If it is KAMENKA in Horodotskij Raion the address to mayor would be:

UKRAINA
Khmelnytska Oblast
Gorodotskij Raion
s. Kamenka
Holowa Sela

[BillZ]

Hello Hannia
Thank you very much for the information. The village from which my grandparents emigrated was KAMIENKA (old Polish) present day Kamyanka/Kamianka in Ternopil Oblast north of Skalat and east of Pidvolochysk. My grandfather was in the army from age 18 to 24 and my grandmother worked for a Jewish tailor named Schuster. Other relatives from the village were Alex Mulla, Hanoshka Podborochinski, Joseph Shegolski and wife Anastasia Weiss.

Thanks

Vasyl

[Jay]

I'm searching for any relatives with the last name of Moczulski or Chrobak from the towns of Czarnoroncy and or Rodatycze Poland. I believe these towns are now in the Ukraine under a changed name.
the Moczulski's married into the Chrobaks family or Vise-versa and then moved to Canada. I would like to chat with anyone from these towns if at all possible. I can't find these towns on any map of Europe. contact jayholding@hotmail.com

[Hannia]

Jay,

Your ancestral villages are nowhere near villages mentioned in previous posts!

Quick look indicates Rodatychi is in Horodotskij raion/district, formerly called Grodek Jageliionskij
POWIAT(county-administrative district) in what is the Lvivska (Lviv) oblast/region today.
Coordinates 49.48-23.32. My maternal family is from this district. This selo was
founded in 1370 and currently still exists w/population of 1,912 souls.

Your Czarnoroncy is actually Chornokyntsi today (coordinates 49.50-23.30) .
It was founded in 1470 and still exists, although it is barely hamlet size today
w/only 50 residents. It is appx three miles NNW of Radytychi. It is in the
Yavorivskij raion/district > Lvivska oblast.

Were Moczulski Polish or Ukrainian?

There are 390 individuals w/Chrobak surname in Ukraine.
Seven are listed in Lviv. Many villagers have moved to
the larger towns/cities for economic reasons.
THERE ARE TWO CHROBAK LISTED IN CHORNOKYNTSY !!!

When did your family members emigrate?
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LDS has copied both GC & RC Church Records for Rodatychi. Have you ever used this resource?

Title
Metrical books, 1786-1881

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Rodatycze (Gródek) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths, birth extract) for Rodatycze (Gródek), Galizien, Austria; later Rodatycze (Gródek Jagielloński), Lwów, Poland; now Rodatychi, Horodok, L′viv, Ukraine. Text in Latin and Polish with some headings in Russian.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 496-499, 893, 4854-4858.
For some years the records of this locality are mixed with the records of other localities.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Rodatycze (Gródek) - Church records
Poland, Lwów, Rodatycze (Gródek Jagielloński) - Church records
Україна, Львів, Городок, Родатичі - Метричні книги
Ukraine, L′viv, Horodok, Rodatychi - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Polish
Russian

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1994-2002

Physical
on 3 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 201-4A/496 Births, marriages, deaths 1835-1839 (filmed with Bratkowice and Haliczanów) - FHL INTL Film [ 1922919 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/497 Births, marriages, deaths 1840 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1842-1843 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1846 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1848-1849 (filmed with Bratkowice and Haliczanów) - FHL INTL Film [ 1922919 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/498 Births, marriages, deaths 1850-1857 (filmed with Bratkowice and Haliczanów) - FHL INTL Film [ 1922919 Item 9 ]
Volume 201-4A/499 Births, marriages, deaths 1858-1860 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1862-1865 (filmed with Bratkowice and Haliczanów) - FHL INTL Film [ 1922919 Item 10 ]
Volume 201-4A/893 Births, marriages, deaths 1860-1875 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2011700 Item 10 ]
Volume 201-4A/4854 Births 1786-1835 - FHL INTL Film [ 2347175 Item 3 ]
Volume 201-4A/4855 Deaths 1786-1859 - FHL INTL Film [ 2347175 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/4856 Marriages 1787-1886 - FHL INTL Film [ 2347175 Item 5 ]
Volume 201-4A/4857 Births 1835-1863 - FHL INTL Film [ 2347175 Item 6 ]
Volume 201-4A/4858 Births 1863-1881 -- Birth extract 1868 (written 1932) - FHL INTL Film [ 2347175 Item 7 ]
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Title
Księgi metrykalne, 1700-1948

Authors
Kościół rzymsko-katolicki. Parafja Rodatycze (Gródek Jagielloński) (Main Author)

Notes
Mikrofilm zrobiony z rękopisów w Archiwum Państwowe w Warszawie i w Archiwum i Biblioteka Kurii Arcybiskupiej Lubaczów.
Tekst po latińsku i polsku.
Roman Catholic parish registers and transcripts of births, marriages, marriage banns, deaths and family register for Rodatycze, Galicia, Austria; later Rodatycze (Gródek Jagielloński), Lwów, Poland; now Rodatychi, L'viv, Ukraine. Includes: Wołczychy, Bratkowice, Dobrzany, Kocow, Laszkow, Leśniowice, Rzeczyczany, Tuczapy, Zbadyń.

Subjects
Ukraine, L′viv, Horodok, Rodatychi - Church records
Austria, Galizien, Rodatycze (Gródek) - Church records
Poland, Lwów, Rodatycze (Gródek Jagielloński) - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Polish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Mikrofilmowało The Genealogical Society of Utah, 1971-1996

Physical
na 8 rolkach mikrofilmu ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Akta zgonów 1776-1785 - FHL INTL Film [ 766084 Item 7 ]
Indeks urodzeń 1700-1884 - FHL INTL Film [ 2038902 Item 4 ]
Indeks urodzeń 1700-1884 (Z. fort.) -- Indeks zgonów 1784-1904 -- Indeks urodzeń 1885-1946 -- Indeks zgonów 1905-1946 -- Akta zapowiedzi 1848-1884 -- Protokoły przedślubne 1872-1874 -- Akta zapowiedzi 1897-1947 -- Akta urodzeń 1765-1785 -- Akta urodzeń 1784-1819 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038903 ]
Akta urodzeń 1819-1834 -- Akta urodzeń 1784-1834 -- Akta urodzeń 1784-1834 -- Akta zgonów 1784-1834 -- Akta zgonów 1784-1834 -- Akta zgonów 1784-1834 -- Akta zgonów 1784-1834 -- Akta zgonów 1785-1832 -- Akta zgonów 1786-1834 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038904 Item 1 ]
Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Rodatycze) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Wołczuchy) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Bratkowice) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Dobrzany) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Koców) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Łaszki) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Leśniowice) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Rzeczyczany) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Tuczapy) -- Akta zgonów 1834-1862 (Zbadyń) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038904 Item 2 ]
Akta urodzeń 1834-1836 (Rodatycze) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Wołczuchy) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Bratkowice) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Dobrzany) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Koców) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Łaszki) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Leśniowice) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Rzeczyczany) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Tuczapy) -- Akta urodzeń 1834-1846 (Zbadyń) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038904 Item 2 ]
Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Rodatycze) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1837 (Wołczuchy) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Bratkowice) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Dobrzany) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Koców) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Łaszki) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Leśniowice) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Rzeczyczany) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Tuczapy) -- Akta małżeństw 1834-1877 (Zbadyń) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038904 Item 2 ]
Akta urodzeń 1847-1859 (Rodatycze) -- Akta urodzeń 1847-1861 (Dobrzany) -- Akta urodzeń 1847-1848 (Koców) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038904 Item 2 ]
Akta urodzeń 1847-1868 (Koców) -- Akta urodzeń 1858, 1865 (Łaszki) -- Akta urodzeń 1847-1860 (Leśniowoce) -- Akta urodzeń 1847-1875 (Rzeczyczany) -- Akta urodzeń 1847-1867 (Tuczapy) -- Akta urodzeń 1847-1862 (Zbadyń) -- Akta zgonów 1855-1886 (Rodatycze) -- Akta urodzeń 1859-1885 (Rodatycze) -- Akta małżeństw 1865-1926 (Rodatycze) -- Akta urodzeń 1885-1910 (Rodatycze) -- Akta zgonów 1926-1935 (Rodatycze) -- Akta urodzeń 1941-1947 (Rodatycze) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038905 ]
Akta małżeństw 1940-1946 (Rodatycze) -- Akta zgonów 1940-1946 (Rodatycze) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2038905 ]
Spis familij 1830-1945 -- Liber infirmorum 1890-1945 -- Akta urodzeń 1877-1948 (obcy) - FHL INTL Film [ 2038906 Items 1 - 3 ]
Akta urodzeń 1767-1785, 1793 - FHL INTL Film [ 2328848 Item 8 ]
Akta zgonów 1776-1784 (Rodatycze) -- miscellanea - FHL INTL Film [ 2328849 Item 1 ]

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Chornokyntsy is part of the Vizhomlya village administration. It shares the same post ofc and I suspect
the same GC Church ???

LDS has copied GC Records for Vizhomlya, formerly called Ozomla.

Title
Metrical books, 1743-1884

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Ożomla (Jaworów) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the Central Archive of Historical Records in Warsaw, Poland and at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for Ożomla (Jaworów), Galizien, Austria; later Ożomla (Jaworów), Lwów, Poland; now Viz︠h︡omli︠a︡, I︠A︡voriv, L′viv, Ukraine. Text in Latin and Russian.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 817-821, 4146, 6337.
For some years the records of this locality are mixed with the records of other localities.

Subjects
Poland, Lwów, Ożomla (Jaworów) - Church records
Austria, Galizien, Ożomla (Jaworów) - Church records
Україна, Львів, Яворів, Віжомля - Метричні книги
Ukraine, L′viv, I︠A︡voriv, Viz︠h︡omli︠a︡ - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Russian

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1972-2003

Physical
on 5 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Deaths 1784-1853 - FHL INTL Film [ 905267 Item 1 ]
Volume 201-4A/817 Births 1784-1835 - FHL INTL Film [ 2010586 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/818 Marriages 1784-1859 - FHL INTL Film [ 2010586 Item 9 ]
Volume 201-4A/819 Births 1836-1850 - FHL INTL Film [ 2010586 Item 10 ]
Volume 201-4A/820 Births, marriages, deaths 1837 - Births, marriages, deaths 1841-1846 -- Births, deaths 1847 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2010586 Item 11 ]
Volume 201-4A/820 (cont.) Marriages, deaths 1847 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1848 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1852 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1854 -- Deaths 1855-1856 -- Births, marriages 1857 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1858 -- Births, deaths 1859 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2010587 Item 1 ]
Volume 201-4A/821 Births, marriages, deaths 1859-1864 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1866-1871 -- Births, deaths 1872 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2010587 Item 2 ]
Volume 201-4A/4146 Births, marriages, deaths 1784-1800 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1829-1836 (some years may be missing; includes other localities) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343838 Item 2 ]
Volume 201-4A/6337 Births 1850-1884 - FHL INTL Film [ 2377676 Item 4 ]