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Old 20th April 2011, 21:47
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Шановна Ганна!
Ви консультували Давида Котсмана (Dave Cotsman, Качмарик) в пошуку ‘’кор╕ння’’ на Укра╖н╕.
В ц╕й фам╕льн╕й ╕стор╕╖ ╓ багато мен╕ нев╕домого, на як╕ я не можу дати в╕дпов╕д╕.
╤ майже двор╕чн╕ пошуки не дали результату. Те що м╕й прад╕д ╤ван Капраль (John Kapral) ви╖жджав два рази з синами до Штат╕в я це знав ще змалку. В╕д Давида я взнав, що Василь (William) ╕ ╤лько (Alex) були його братами. Прад╕д ╕ брати заре╓строван╕ в перепис╕ населення Штат╕в 1910 ╕ 1920 рр. ╤ брати, ╕ сини залишилися в Сполучених Штатах. Власне, тут мова йде про син╕в, яких я не можу розшукати ╕ в перепис╕ 1930 року. Ц╕ переписи умовно доступн╕, лише за пр╕звищами. В╕д першо╖ дружини в прад╕да був син Григор╕й (Gary or Harry in US). Ж╕нка Григор╕я родом з Велико╖ Сушиц╕, Галичина (Austria in 1906). Можливо це бела ем╕грац╕я 1914 року (також Австр╕я бо Галичина до Польщ╕ попала п╕д окупац╕ю в 1919 р.). Вдруге, п╕сля смерт╕ ж╕нки, прад╕д женився на вдов╕ Анастас╕╖ Андр╕йц╕в, в яко╖ був син Микола. Збереглися три св╕тлини на яких п╕дписано: “Анастас╕я, молодша дочка,1951 р╕к”, “чотири внуки старшо╖ дочки ╤рини“ та “ваша братаничка Мар╕я, 1957 р╕к“ з чолов╕ком, сином ╕ дочкою.
Давиду ц╕ фотограф╕╖ нев╕дом╕. За словами батька одна дочка вийшла зам╕ж за н╕мця (чи в╕н родом з Штат╕в, нев╕домо).
Нема результат╕в за ╕менами: Gary Kapral, Harry Kapral, Gregory Kapral, Irene Kapral, Anastasia Kapral (пор╕внюючи можлив╕ дати народження Григор╕я приблизно 1880-1885), ╤рини, Анастас╕╖ ╕ Мар╕╖ (в╕д 1915 до 1935 рок╕в народження).
Хто Мар╕я, я зробив висновок що дочка ╤рини (можливо дочка Григор╕я)?
До кого в Сполучених Штатах кажуть братаничка?
На як╕ посилання мен╕ ор╕╓нтуватися в розшуку Григор╕я ╕ Миколи (вони проживали в Кливленд╕), народжених в Сполучених Штатах ╤рини, Анастас╕╖, Мар╕╖?
За яким ╕менем в англ╕йськ╕й мов╕ вести пошук Миколи Андр╕йц╕ва (Nike Andriytsiv)?
Деяк╕ посилання, якими я користувався:
St. John the Baptist Orthodox Church - Our Cemetery
Kapral Surname Search: Family Tree Facts
Descendents of the Casterline Family:Information about George Michael Kapral
http://go.footnote.com/results.php?g...id=932&links=0
Eagles Cemetery - Kittitas County, Washington
KAPRAL Genealogy and KAPRAL Family History Search
Kapral - Ancestry.com
Kapral Surname Search: Family Tree Facts
Kapral (last name) in the US Identify People Search Database
1930 United States Federal Census - Ancestry.com
FamilySearch.org - Research Guidance
https://www.familysearch.org/search/...entYearTo=1960
Ellis Island - FREE Port of New York Passenger Records Search
Де можна для пошуку розм╕стити фотограф╕╖, кр╕м FaceBook ╕ FamilyTree?
Буду радий, якщо Ви чим-небудь мен╕ допоможете,
з повагою Олег Капраль, Льв╕в.

Dear Hanna!
You advised Dave Cotsman (Kachmaryk) in the search for ''roots'' in Ukraine.
This story is a lot unknown. Almost two-year search gave no results. My great-grandfather John Kapral traveled twice to US width sons. From David I learned that Vasyl (William) and Ilko (Alex) were his brothers. Great-grandfather and brothers registered in the US census in 1910 and 1920. Brothers and sons remained in the United States. These are the sons that I can not find in 1910, 1920 and 1930 census. The censuses conventionally available only by name. The great-grandfather and first wife was born son Gregory (Gary or Harry in US). A wife Gregory’s was born in Welyka Sushytsia, Galicia (Austria in 1906). Maybe it was emigration in 1914 (also Austria, Galicia to Poland fell under occupation in 1919). After died wife, great-grandfather married Anastasia Andriytsiv. She son was Nicholas. There are three survived photographs in which signed: "Anastasia, the youngest daughter, in 1951", "four grandchildren oldest daughter Irene" and "Your bratanychka Maria, 1957" width husband, son and daughter.
David are unknown the photos. My father says: one daughter married a GermanMan (he was from US is unknown).
No results names: Gary Kapral, Harry Kapral, Gregory Kapral, Irene Kapral, Anastasia Kapral
(comparing the possible dates of birth Gregory about 1880-1885), Irene, Anastasia and Mary (from 1915 to 1935 years of birth).
Who is Maria, I concluded that the daughter of Irene (possibly the daughter of Gregory)?
Who is bratanychka in the United States?
What links I wanted to navigate Gregory and Nicholas (they lived in Cleveland, Ohio); Irene, Anastasia and Mary born in the United States?
What names in English to search Микола Андр╕йц╕в (Nicholas Andriytsiva, Nike Andriytsiv)?
Some links I enjoyed:

I would be glad if you do something help me,
Oleg Kapral, Lviv.
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Old 21st April 2011, 14:57
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Oleg, Христос Воскрес and welcome.

I did some preliminary looking last night and found that GGrandfather did make two trips to Cleveland area: one in September of 1912 and the other March of 1913. Both times he traveled with other people from the village. In 1912 he was with Andrij Ivanicki, Hryc Jarsa???, Wasko Sawerczak, Fedko Paniszak and Dmytro Fornal. For this trip I did not find his return record. In March of 1913 he was traveling with Wasko Jascyczyn. Then he returns home thru Philadelphia, via Liverpool England December 1913. I FOUND NO RECORDS OF ANY SONS TRAVELING WITH HIM.

PS> In 1912 Iwan was already married to Anastasia, listed as Nastina/Nastia, left behind in village.

I am sorry, but this now will have to wait until after Easter.
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Old 23rd April 2011, 14:38
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Voistynu voskres!
Dear Hanna!
have some data from a census 1910, 1920:
(bold is my add)
John Kapral birth: 1868 – Galicia (my great-grandfather, v. Sushice, Велика Сушиця)
death: 1942 – v. Skelivka (old name was Felshtyn)
residence: 1920 – Cuyahoga, Ohio
second wife: Anastasia Andrytsiv (Анастас╕я Андр╕йц╕в)
digital folder: 4383993

Ilko (Alex) Kapral birth: Jul 1880 – Sushice, Sambor, W. Ukraine (╤лько, Олекса,
John’s brother)

death: 28 Feb 1946 – Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
parents: Michael Kapral, Teszka Stepanik
(Михайло Капраль, Тетяна Степаник)
spouse’s name: Rose Kapral (Розал╕я Капраль)
digital folder: 4072628
Marriages, spouse: Fruska Fornal
1750-1950 spouse’s father: Michael (Fornal, Михайло Форналь)
spouse’s mother: Maria Czapy (Мар╕я Цап)
digital folder: 4016967

William Kapral birth: 12 Feb1873 – Poland (Galicia, Василь Капраль, John’s brother)
death: 22 Apr 1925 – Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
parents: Michael Kapral, Teszka Stepanik
(Михайло Капраль, Тетяна Степаник)
digital folder: 4001608
sertificate: fn 21314

Pete Kapral birth: 22 Aug1881 – Austria (I thinks he was brother of John)
death: 09 Jan 1921 – Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
spouse’s name: Annie Kapral (?)
father’s name: Michael Kapral (Михайло Капраль)
mother’s name: (?)
digital folder: 4017669
sertificate: fn 1220

Alex’s and William’s children registered in census 1910, 1920 and 1930. Any data about sons of John and Gregory’s daughters residence Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio. Nick (Микола Андр╕йц╕в) was son of Anastasia.
I think they could arrived to US through port Philadelphia with families Fornal (Форналь), Kachmarek (Качмарик), Czap (Цап), Kalnicki (Кальницький), Trytiak (Тритяк) Hnatko (Гнатко).
William Kapral was Wasko Kappel, Iwan Kapral was registered in Ellis Island records 1913. I don’t know who was Mikolaj Tapral arrived on the Pottsdam exit port Rotterdam (this Forum, Hannia to DCotsman, section Information on city in Ukraine).
Христос воскрес!
Sincerely, Oleg Kapral, Lviv.
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Old 25th April 2011, 21:50
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I am from Cleveland, Ohio and would be glad to help you if I can.

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Kapral Family: Rose Id#: 0172135


Id#: 0568307
Name: Kapral, Nicholas
Date: Jan 5 1971
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #122.
Notes: Kapral. Nicholas Kapral, beloved husband of the late Merid, father of Mrs. Paul Diddy (Irene) of East Paint, Ga., Mrs. Ruymand O'Brien (Sandy) of Michigan ? and grandfather of 15. Friends may call of The Holowchak Funeral Home, 5548 State Rd., of Torrington Ave., Parma. Funeral services Thursday, Jan. 7 at 9 a.m. and at St. Andrews Ukrainian Catholic Church at 9:30 a.m. Interment SS. Peter and Paul Cemetery. Member and past secretary at Providence Lodge Branch No. 6 U.N.A. Parastas Wednesday at 8 P.M. Visiting hours Tuesday 7-9 P.M., Wednesday 2-5 And 7-9 P.M.

Id#: 0568306
Name: Kapral, Maria
Date: Aug 2 1957
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #122.
Notes: Kapral, Maria, late residence, 1529 Buhrer Ave., beloved wife of Nicholas, mother of Mrs. Irene Diddy, Mrs. Stella O'Brien, both of Chicago, and grandmother of ten, passed away, Wednesday p. m. Funeral services from the Paul Holowczak Memorial Chapel, 1208 Kenilworth Ave., Saturday, Aug. 3, at 9:30 a. m. and SS. Peter and Paul Church. College and W. 7th St., at 10 a. m.

Id#: 0568305
Name: Kapral, Charles Sr.
Date: Aug 5 1973
Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #122.
Notes: Kapral. Charles Kapral Sr., beloved husband of Anna (nee Choma), dear father of Charles J. and Michael, dear brother of John, Paul, Mary and Anna, all in Crechoslovakla. Prayer services Monday, Aug. 6, at The Mallchok Funeral Home, 5660 Ridge Rd., Parma, O., at 9:15 a.m. Funeral Mass Nativity B. V. M. Catholic Church (Aetna Rd.), at 10 a.m. Interment Holy Cross Cemetery. Family will receive friends Sunday 2-5 And 7-9:30.

Id#: 0568304
Name: Kapral, Anna
Date: Jan 26 1973
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #122.
Notes: Kapral. Anna Kapral beloved sister of Mary Krupsa and the late Peter, aunt of Ronald Krupsa and Patricia Boeggeman, sister-in-law of Julia Peters. Friends may call at The Ferfolia & Sons Funeral Home, 5386 Lee Rd., Near Broadway Maple Hts. Funeral Saturday 9:30 A.M. Services St. Joseph Byzantine Rite Church 10 A.M. Visiting. Hours. Friday 2-5 And 7-10 P.M. Parastas Friday at 7:30 P.M.

Id#: 0172135
Name: Kapral, Rose
Date: Oct 22 1947
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #043.
Notes: Kapral, Rose, beloved wife of the late Ilko, mother of Mrs. Stella Chidsey, Mrs. Mary Cotsman, Nick, Michael, George and grandmother, passed away suddenly Tues. A. M. Funeral services Frl., Oct. 24 from Paul Holowczak Funeral Home, 2387 Professor St., at 9 a. m., and St. Peter and Paul Church, College and W. Seventh St., at 9:30 a. m.

Id#: 0172134
Name: Kapral, Ilko
Date: Mar 2 1946
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #043.
Notes: Kapral, Ilko, beloved husband of Rose father of Mrs. Stella Chidsey Mrs. Marie Cotsman, Nick, Michael and George, and grandfather, Thurs. p. m. Friends may call at M. J. Kolodly's Funeral Home, 3136 W. 14 st., where services will be held Mon., March 4, at 9 a. m., and from SS. Peter and Paul Church, W. Seventh and College ave. 9:30 a. m.


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Bride Groom Volume Page Page Match
STERANKA, ANNASTASIA KAPRAL, BASILIUS 0057 0221 67
CONTORNO, CAROLINE KAPRAL, CHARLES J 0467 0121 00
SWET, SOPHIE KAPRAL, GEORGE 0358 0496 00
FORNAL, FRUSKA KAPRAL, ILKO 0071 0467 77
PAWLOWSKI, HELEN KAPRAL, MICHAEL J 0234 0498 00
PECEK, MARIA KAPRAL, NICHOLAS 0190 0429 30
BANKO, MARY KAPRAL, NICHOLAS J 0233 0093 00
PIRHAC, MARIA KAPRAL, PETER 0067 0459 69
SZOLANIC, ANNA KAPRAL, PETER 0086 0169 66
SURSO, JULIA KAPRAL, PETER J 0174 0040 03
PIRHAE, MARY KAPRAL, PETR 0087 0072 74
GLAUBER, ROSALIND F KAPRALL, HARRY F 0189 0170 22

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