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Old 28th January 2011, 13:45
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Ukraines in german army

Hi

I am new to the forum and wonder if anyone could help me re my Dad.

He lived in Kostilnyky near Buchach and was born in 1926.

During the war he was "taken" by the Germans and ended up in their army. They gve themselves up to the allies in Italy and he was put in a prisoner of war camp in Rimini. From there he was bought to England via Scotland as a Displaced Person to work on the farms in East Anglia.

He met and married my mum and never got to go back as unfortunately he died in 1989 before the fall of the wall.

I have heard about the Galicia Dvision of the German army and wonders if he was in this but not sure. He would never talk about his war experiences as it upset him too much.

His brother had been taken by the Russians earlier so effectively they were on opposite sides even though none of them officially "signed up".,

I would love any information on any of these aspects especially the camp in Rimini. I have his card with his number on.
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Old 28th January 2011, 15:24
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Ukrainians in German Army
InfoUkes: Ukrainian History -- World War II in Ukraine

The Ukrainian Division "Galicia": The History of Its Formation and Military Operations (1943-1945)

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Rimini was POW Camp
Rimini DP Camps in Italy

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Old 28th January 2011, 15:30
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GIVE your father's name please
I have several lists of Galicia Division warriors
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Old 28th January 2011, 16:03
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Thank you

It was Hyhorizy (known as Gregory in English) Kramarczuk Another spelling we have is Hrygoriy bor n 13.02.26

He was taken in 1944 and marched to Russian front for the winter of 1944/45. They retreated to Yugoslavian mountains where they surrendered to Americans.

They were taken to camp just off beach in Rimini run by mostly Scottish soldiers. They remained there till 1947 and he was then bought to Scotland and landed on 25.04.47. Then bought to East Anglia.

Thank you for any help
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Old 28th January 2011, 17:38
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Selo/village Kostilnyky (ëÏÓÔ¦ÌØÎÉËÉ in Ukrainian - called Koscielniki in Polish, when Father was born ) was founded in the 16th century on the banks of the Dniester River. It was predominantly a Ukrainian village w/its own Greek Catholic Church, Church of St. Paraskeva built in 1906. Today its still exists w/population of 1,037, 7 of which are listed as Kramarchuk/Kramarczuk.

ëòáíáòþõë ðáòáóëï÷éñ æåäïòï÷îá 1925-06-23 ëïóô¶ìøîéëé
Paraskevia, daughter of Fedor
ëòáíáòþõë åëáôåòéîá íéèáêìï÷îá 1940-05-05 ëïóô¶ìøîéëé þåò÷ïîïçï ðòïæ¶îôåòîõ
Katheryna, daughter of Myhajlo
ëòáíáòþõë åìåîá äíéôòéå÷îá 1908-04-05 ëïóô¶ìøîéëé þåò÷ïîïçï ðòïæ¶îôåòîõ
Olena, daughter of Dmytro
ëòáíáòþõë íáëóéí ëéòéììï÷éþ 1929-09-15 ëïóô¶ìøîéëé þåò÷ïîïçï ðòïæ¶îôåòîõ
Maksym, son of Kyrylo
ëòáíáòþõë ñòïóìá÷ ôåïäïúéå÷éþ 1971-05-02 ëïóô¶ìøîéëé
Yaroslav, son of Teodozij
ëòáíáòþõë æåäïò ñëï÷éþ 0 1932-09-06 ëïóô¶ìøîéëé
Fedor, son of Yakiv
ëòáíáòþõë íéèáéì íáëóéíï÷éþ 1961-09-14 ëïóô¶ìøîéëé
Myhajlo, son of Maksym
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Selo Kostilnyky > Buchatzkij (Buchach) raion/district > Ternopilska (TernopiL) oblast/region > Ukraine, latest zip code 48463.

Pix of St. Paraskeva in Kostilnyky
http://www.myslenedrevo.com.ua/studi.../mz/904-04.jpg
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Thank you so much for this information.
My Dad's sister was called Pareska and her husband Dmytro whose surname was either Makaruk or Kostryba I am not sure which.
Her daughter Daryna and her husband Ludvig still live in the village.
Pareska had a son Myhailo who now lives in Ivano Frankivisk and with whom I correspond.
Dad had two brothers who would be Kramarczuk's named Vasyl and Myhailo but they were taken by the Russians in the war and nobody know what happened to them.
Dad's sister Maria died of typhus during the war together with Dad's parents Pylyp and Agafia.

That is all the info I have on the family.
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Old 28th January 2011, 18:03
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Irene,

If you cannot locate Hryhorij (nickname Hrych or Hryn) Kramarchuk in your sources, many listed in these obits from WW2 were in Galicia Division and were/are presumed dead:

Title Knyha pam'i︠a︡ti Ukraïny. Ternopil's'ka oblast'
Authors çÅÒÁÓÉÍÏ×, ¶.ï. (¶×ÁÎ ïÌÅËÓÁÎÄÒÏ×ÉÞ) (Added Author)

Notes Memorial book of persons who died in World War II from Ternopil's'ka oblast, Ukraine. Names are arranged alphabetically by district (rayon), then by municipality and town. Includes birth year and place, date of enlistment, death date and place, or, if missing and presumed dead, date and place last seen. Text in Ukrainian.Contents: v. 1. m. Ternopil', Berezhans'kyĭ raĭon, Borshchivs'kyĭ raĭon, Buchat︠s︡'kyĭ raĭon, Husi︠a︡tyns'kyĭ raĭon, Zalishchyt︠s︡'kyĭ raĭon, Zbaraz'kyĭ raĭon -- v. 2. Zborivs'kyĭ raĭon, Kozivs'kyĭ raĭon, Kremenet︠s︡'kyĭ raĭon, Lanovet︠s︡'kyĭ raĭon, Monastyrys'kyĭ raĭon, Pidvolochys'kyĭ raĭon -- v. 3. Terebovli︠a︡ns'kyĭ raĭon, Ternopil's'kyĭ raĭon, Chortkivs'kyĭ raĭon, Shums'kyĭ raĭon.

Subjects Ukraine, Ternopil′ - Obituaries
World War, 1939-1945 - Registers of dead - Ukraine

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Call Number Location Availability High Density
947.79 V4t v. 1 FHL INTL Book Available Book Storage 0277198
947.79 V4t v. 2 FHL INTL Book Available Book Storage 0277199
947.79 V4t v. 3 FHL INTL Book Available Book Storage 0277200

Format Books/Monographs
Language Ukrainian
Publication ìØ×¦× : "Kameni︠a︡r", 1995-1996
Physical 3 v. : ill.
ISBN/ISSN 5774506355
5774506363 v. 1
5774506371 v. 2
577450638X v. 3

Subject Class 947.79 V4
Series ëÎÉÇÁ ÐÁÍ'ÑÔ¦ õËÒÁ§ÎÉ


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