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I am searching for relatives under the last name of WOLOCH.

My dad came from Skalat, Ukraine in 1928 to Canada. He was 24. Miron Woloch
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Hello,
Here is your Dad's immigration record:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Miron Woloch
Name: Miron Woloch
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Birth Country: Poland
Date of Arrival: 5 May 1928
Vessel: United States
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Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Roll: T-14815

It says he was born in Rasztowce and left his wife Paraska/Paranka? in Dubkowce

Could this be a brother?

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Joseph Woloch
Name: Joseph Woloch
Arrival Date: 1 Feb 1926
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1899
Birthplace: Raztowce
Birth Country: Poland
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Ruthenian (Russniak) (Ruthenian)

Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Departure Contact: Wife Mary
Arrival Contact: Brother Simon Woloch
Record has photo?: No

And another brother?

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Andrzej Woloch
Name: Andrzej Woloch
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Birth Country: Poland
Date of Arrival: 13 Apr 1929
Vessel: Oscar II
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Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Roll: T-14819

He was born in Rasztowce and left his wife Anna there.
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Old 22nd July 2010, 16:01
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Welcome Fran.

Ruth was kind enough to dig up Father's immigration documentation.

Immigrants frequently referred to their district center towns (in Father's case Skalat) for geographical reference, because their own villages were small.
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Selo/vilage Rastivtsi was founded on the banks of the Hnyla River in appx 1564. There are lots of archealogical digs of the Trypillian Culture*** that were found in this immediate area, indicating that this area was settled in appx 5500 BC. Rastivtsi also has a Cossack heritage. This is where Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytskij ***(17th century) fought an important battle.

More recent geopolitical history

From late 18th century to 1919 wies/village Rasztowce > Skalat was the POWIAT (adm district - county) and Grzymlow was the GMINA (judicial/tax district) > Tarnapolskie wojiwodstwo > Historical Galicia/Halyczyna Province, administered by ethnic Poles for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. During the Interwar Period (1919-1938) this region came under Reconstituted Poland's domain. Technically Poland had not existed as a geopolitical entity for the previous 125 yrs. Post WW2 the Ternopil region became a part of SSR Ukraine, under Soviet domain until 1991, when Ukraine became independent.

Following are Woloch (Волох in Ukrainian) still residing in selo Rashtivtsi (Рашт╕вц╕ in Ukr), population 775+ > Husyatynskij (Husyatyn) raion/district > Ternopilska (Ternopil) oblast/region > Ukraine, latest zip 48235. This village is clustered w/hamlet Dubkivtsi (Mother's place of birth) w/which it shares the post ofc and the Village Administration.

ВОЛОХ АННА АЛЕКСЕЕВНА 64795 1932-01-10 РАШТ╤ВЦ╤ НЕВ╤ДОМА
Anna, daughter of Oleksa/Alexander
ВОЛОХ СТЕПАНИЯ ГРИГОРЬЕВНА 24795 1963-02-22 РАШТ╤ВЦ╤ НЕВ╤ДОМА
Stefania, daughter of Hryhorij/Gregory
ВОЛОХ ОКСАНА СТЕПАНОВНА 0 1986-05-28 РАШТ╤ВЦ╤ НЕВ╤ДОМА
Oksana, daughter of Stefan
ВОЛОХ МИХАИЛ МАРКИЯНОВИЧ 64795 1928-02-10 РАШТ╤ВЦ╤ НЕВ╤ДОМА
Myhajlo, son of Markian
ВОЛОХ СТЕПАН МИХАЙЛОВИЧ 24795 1958-06-24 РАШТ╤ВЦ╤ НЕВ╤ДОМА
Stefan, son of Myhajlo

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*** The Trypillian people were an agrarian group, who invented the very first indoor stove. They were the first bread bakers. The Trypillian Civilization was a Neolithic Bronze Age culture, scientifically dated 5500BC-2750BC.

There is extensive evidence of these people, living in the Western Carpathian Mtns spanning to the Dnieper River , encompassing regions mostly in modern Ukraine, and some in Moldova and Romania. At its peak, the Trypillians built the largest Neolithic settlements on the continent that would be Europe, some of which had populations of up to 15,000 people. One of the most notable things about this civilization was that every 80 yrs or so, they would burn the settlements and rebuild, preserving layer upon layer of scientific data.

Trypillian society was matriarchal, with women heading the household, doing agricultural work, and manufacturing pottery, textiles and clothing. Hunting, keeping domestic animals and making tools were the responsibilities of the men. The primary deity of this ancient population was female. The Trypillian culture developed a rich symbolic system based on their religious beliefs of the Great Goddess as the powerful giver and regenerator of life and the wielder of death.

About the time your family was emigrating, a Czech archeaologist, Khvoika, uncovered 100+ of these sites. In the course of the digging, there were 6th-7th century Eastern Slavic Tribal settlements and 9th-11th century Kyivan Rus settlements also found at the edges of Dobrynivtsi.

In the mid 70's there were some very important additional Trypillian finds in this immediatei vicinity: 17 warning towers, 4 long houses, 20 underground dwellings w/indoor stone stoves and 11 construction workshops.

The Trypillian culture. Introduction

PS> Just to give you a feel for the time frame, the Egyptian Predynastic (Pharoahs) only goes back to 3200 BC and your ancestral area saw sophisticated human settlement 2000 yrs before that.
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Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky

Bohdan Zenoviy Khmelnytsky was one of the most influencial rulers of Eastern Europe, but not known as well as other great leaders such as Napoleon, because of the way he led the great Ukrainian uprising, or The Great Revolt of 1648 (Subtelny, 123). Born about 1595, though the exact date and place is unknown, Khmelnytsky was the son of a minor Ukrainian nobleman named Mykhaylo Khmelnytsky. Mykhaylo served the royal Hetman Stanislaw Zolkiewski and his son-in-law, Jan Danilowicz of Poland. For his good services, Mykhaylo obtained an estate in Subotiv. Bohdan was educated at a Jesuit College in Yaroslav where he studied the Polish and Latin languages. It was thought he also studied French. In 1620, his father was killed in the battle against the Poles at Cecora. Bohdan was taken captive by the Turks and held for two years until his mother collected enough ransom money. During these two years he mastered the Turkish and Tatar languages. This proved to be helpful to him later in his relations with Turkey and Tatary. Bohdan returned to Subotiv to follow in his father's footsteps by becoming a Cossack (an idealistic, freedom-loving, gallant and independent man who fights for the well being of Ukraine and is ready to sacrifice his life for his country, his religion, and his freedom), married Hanna Somko and lived together on his estate in Subotiv. After the signing of the Treaty of Borovytsia on December 24, 1637, Bohdan was elected Captain of the registered Cossacks in Chihiryn. He was part of a Cossack delegation to the Polish king, Wladyslaw IV in 1646. At this point in his career, he was 50 years old. In 1646, while away from his estate, a Polish nobleman, with the aid of local magnates (a very important and influential person in any field of activity, especially in a large business), laid claim to Khmelnytsky's estate, raided it, killed his yougest son, and kidnapped the woman that the recently widowed Bohdan intended to marry. This action gave him enough motivation to form a revolt againt the Poles. His life changed, and with it the course of Ukraine's history. Khmelnytsky organized supporters and plotted an uprising against the Polish landlords. Realizing that their cavalry was small, he sought the aid of the Crimean Tatars, the Cossack's traditional enemies. The timing was right, and an alliance against the Poles was formed. The Khan sent 4000 Tatars to aid the Cossacks. As news traveled to the Poles about the revolt, Bohdan was forced to flee with his followers to the Zaporozhian Sich in January of 1648. He was welcomed graciously, but had to convince the Zaporozhians of his worthiness. His exceptional talents as an organizer, politician, and military leader, made all the difference. Soon after, he was elected as Hetman (highest military, administrative, and judicial office among Ukrainian Cossacks). Many battles were fought, and many lives were lost on all sides, even the innocent were casulties of this revolt as always like in any war. The Bila Tserkva (White Church) agreement on September 28th of 1651 had to do with the lessening of the Hetman's authority, forbidding him to have foreign contacts, and the reduction of Cossack forces to 20,000 troops. Most Ukrainian peasants and Cossacks were forced to deal with serfdom one more time. Thousands fled east to Muscovite territory what is now Kharkiv region. Khmelnytsky had absolutely no intention to abide by the treaty. Within a year the Polish army was completely destroyed at the border of Podilla and Moldavia. On the January 18th in 1654, Khmelnytsky called a meeting with the Cossack elite and a decision was made. Ukraine needed an overlord and it was decided upon to be ruled by the Muscovite tsar. This meeting was held at Pereiaslav, near Keiv. The towns people were gathered and the Hetman spoke of a need for an overlord. He presented four candidates - the Polish king, the Tatar Khan, the Ottoman Sultan, and the Muscovite tsar. It was explained to the townspeople that this was decided upon at the prior meeting and that the Muscovite tsar was the best choice. The crowd understood and agreed. At the town church, the Pereiaslav Agreement was sealed and marked a turning point in the history of Ukraine, Russia, and all of Eastern Europe. Muscovy now had its foot in the door to becoming a great power. Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky gave pride back to its people, and succeded in building the basis for a Ukrainian way of life. Without his efforts, the rebirth of the Ukrainian state would have been impossible.

Bibliography

Subtelny, Orest. Ukraine: A History. Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1988. Nahayewsky, Isidore. History of Ukraine. 2nd edition. Philadelphia: America Publishing House of Providence Association of Ukrainian Catholics of America, 1975. Webster, Noah. Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary of the English Language. Unabridged. 2nd Edition. New York: The Publishers Guild, Inc. 1963. Cossack's Era. http://insight.busadni.wayne.edu/irene/Cos.htm. Internet. 30 January 1997. Salus! Bohdan Khmelnytsky. http://salus.zaporizhzhe.ua/zaporozhye/bohdan.htm. Internet. 24 October 1997.







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Following are people w/phones in Rashivtsi:

64-700 - Михальчук в р (Myhalchuk)
64-702 - Бойко с м (Boyko)
64-704 - Мудрик ╕ван андр╕йович (Mudryk)
64-705 - Камуля ╕ с (Kamulia)
64-707 - Ковальчук м м (Kowalchuk)
64-710 - Мацан ╕ ╕ (Machan)
64-711 - Нагорняк в с (Nahorniak)
64-714 - Мигалевич м с (Myhalevych)
64-718 - Бойко степан йосипович (Boyko)
64-719 - Рашт╕вц╕ с-рада (Village Administration)
64-720 - Гриньк╕в степан васильович (Hrynkiv)
64-721 - Винцьор к п (Wyntzor)
64-723 - Гуменюк степан╕я лук╕вна (Humeniuk)
64-724 - Сеньк╕в микола гнатович (Senkiw)
64-725 - Цв╕гун ярослав михайлович (Tzvihun)
64-726 - Пташник а ╕ (Ptasnyk)
64-727 - К╕ляр параска ╕ван╕вна (Kilyar)
64-728 - Ленько петро тимкович (Lennko)
64-729 - Бойко михайло йосипович (Boyko)
64-730 - Баб╕й м ╕ (Babij)
64-731 - Мазур в ╕ (Mazur)
64-732 - Медпункт рашт╕вц╕ (Medpunkt)
64-733 - Ч╕п ганна йосип╕вна (Cheep)
64-734 - Лабазович василь йосипович (Labazovych)
64-735 - Вовк мар╕я володимир╕вна (Wowk)
64-736 - Стадник ганна кирил╕вна (Stadnyk)
64-737 - Федишин п м (Fedyshyn)
64-738 - Михайл╕в в м (Myhajliv)
64-739 - Михайл╕в р в (Myhajliv)
64-740 - Гуменюк з м (Humeniuk)
64-741 - Кильба серг╕й тимоф╕йович (Kylba)
64-742 - Полоз степан семенович (Poloz)
64-743 - Баб╕й микола дмитрович (Babij)
64-744 - Данилюк соф╕я микола╖вна (Danyliuk)
64-746 - Гудз стефан╕я петр╕вна (Hudz)
64-747 - Ф╕рман ярослав михайлович (Firman)
64-748 - Бойко ганна васил╕вна (Boyko)
64-750 - Ленько в т (Lennko)
64-751 - Кравець антон назарович (Kravetz)
64-754 - Ковальчук н м (Kowalchuk)
64-756 - Полоз ганна андр╕╖вна (Poloz)
64-757 - Яськ╕в антон корнилович Jaskiv)
64-758 - К╕льба василь миколайович (Kilba)
64-759 - Полоз ╕гор павлович (Poloz)
64-760 - Шморан володимир федорович (Shmoran)
64-761 - Дзюняк в м (Dzuniak)
64-762 - Оплета ╕ г (Opleta)
64-764 - Ковалюк ярослав володимирович (Kowaliuk)
64-765 - Федорук михайло ╕ванович (Fedoruk)
64-766 - Колод╕й стефан╕я ╕льк╕вна (Kolodij)
64-767 - Ковальчук ╕ван степанович (Kowalchuk)
64-768 - Стасюк степан михайлович (Staciuk)
64-769 - Карась дмитро михайлович (Karas)
64-770 - Березовський степан ╕ванович (Berezovskij)
64-771 - Глух м м (Hlukh)
64-772 - Куленич василь павлович (Kulenych)
64-773 - Приступа андр╕й петрович (Prystupa)
64-774 - Лошн╕й катерина антон╕вна (Loshnij)
64-775 - Лабай степан╕я володимир╕вна (Labaj)
64-777 - Ковальчук мар╕я лукян╕вна (Kowalchuk)
64-780 - Яськ╕в андр╕й якимович (Jaskiv)
64-781 - Сошик в п (Soshyk)
64-782 - Кравчук богдан лукович (Krawchuk)
64-783 - Рашт╕вц╕ школа (Village School)
64-784 - Ребська василина томк╕вна (Rebska)
64-785 - Ф╕рман михайло семенович (Firman)
64-786 - Стасюк г в (Staciuk)
64-787 - Оплета петро романович (Opleta)
64-788 - Верес мар╕я ╓вген╕вна (Veres)
64-789 - Березовський петро ╕ванович (Berezovskij)
64-790 - Полоз мар╕я як╕вна (Poloz)
64-791 - Кильба ╕ван ╓встахович (Kylba)
64-792 - Гудз ганна дмитр╕вна (Hudz)
64-793 - Шморган йосип марянович Shmorhan)
64-794 - Яськ╕в м я (Jaskiv)
64-795 - Волох ганна олекс╕╖вна (Woloch, Anna daughter of Oleksa)
64-797 - Мацан петро ╓вгенович (Machan)
64-798 - Процик михайло ╕ванович (Protzyk)
64-799 - Прочок ╕гор ╓вгенович (Prochok)
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Woloch info

Thank you so much for the information. I was so excited in reading this concerning my dad's heritage.

At this time I do not know where to go from here.

Any suggestions??
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Where to go depends on what your goals are. You said you want to find relatives. Hannia has identified one possible relative in your Dad's village, Rashivtsi .

Волох ганна олекс╕╖вна (Woloch, Anna daughter of Oleksa)

You could try to contact Anna by telephone and ask if she might be a relative. Maybe Oleksa was another brother/cousin who remained in the village. if you don't speak Ukrainian, could you have someone call for you?

If you want to do research at a Family History centre (LDS) you can search on their website (FamilySearch.org - Family History and Genealogy Records )and see if records are available for Rashivtsi.
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Records for both villages are available together on following films , although these are the older church records.

Title
Metrical books, 1835-1865

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Dubkowce (Gryzmałów) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for Dubkowce (Gryzmałów), Galizien, Austria; later Dubkowce (Skałat), Tarnopol, Poland. From modern-day maps it appears that this historic locality has been incorporated into the modern locality of Rashtivt︠s︡i, Husi︠a︡tyn, Ternopil′, Ukraine. Text in Latin.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 1777-1779.
For some years the records of this locality are mixed with the records of other localities.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Dubkowce (Grzymałów) - Church records
Poland, Tarnopol, Dubkowce (Skałat) - Church records
Укра╖на, Терноп╕ль, Гусятин, Рашт╕вц╕ - Метричн╕ книги
Ukraine, Ternopil′, Husi︠a︡tyn, Rashtivt︠s︡i - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1998

Physical
on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 201-4A/1777 Births, marriages, deaths 1841 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1843-1850 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2125349 Item 1 ]
Volume 201-4A/1778 Births, marriages, deaths 1851-1865 (some years missing; includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2125349 Item 2 ]
Volume 201-4A/1779 Births, marriages, deaths 1835-1840 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2125349 Item 3 ]
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In order to cover the time gap between you own family members and the family in films above, ask IreneLviv to help you. Her rates are very fair to our members and she does an exc job. Additionally, she has the ability to send a crew into your ancestral villages and have them locate surviving family members. They will take pix for you and interview your family members. You can contact IreneLviv by finding one of her posts, clicking on her registered user icon and sending her a PERSONAL MESSAGE (PM).

Bare in mind that August is govt vacation time and archives fall under govt auspices, so you have time to decide how you want to proceed.

In the interim the most valuable resource for anyone researching roots in the historical province of Halyczyna/Galicia is following:
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