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Old 10th June 2010, 02:26
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Tarnogorski and Grzymala families

Due to some misunderstanding, my cousin's Basia's thread has been locked up and sent to somewhere in Siberia; the misunderstanding has been resolved (see Giambrone's thread 'Translation Help').

I would like to reopen a Tarnogorski thread. It is a family that belonged to the Grzymala branch of Polish nobility. Thanks to this forum, and the various links provided by members, we have made enormous progress in discovering our family history. It seems that the various branches of Tarnogorski lived in various towns and villages of what is now Ukraine from perhaps as early as the 1740s (a wild guess), with branches found also in Poland and Belarus.

If in your various researches you do stumble across this surname 'Tarnogorski' in Ukraine, Basia and I would be extremely happy to receive that information.

Best of luck to you all, and thanks again to Hannia and all members of this forum for all of what is being done here. Somehow we are all one big family.

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My grandmother Stanislawa Tarnogórska was born in 1897 at Koziatyn (Kozjatin); her father Marjan was probably employed then at the Koziatyn railway station. She was Polish and a catholic. Other spellings for Tarnogórski probably include Tarnogurskiy; ôÁÒÎÏÇÕÒÓËÉÊ; ôÁÒÎÏÇÕÒÓØËÉÊ. Before 1919 she married Jakob Czyżski (probable spelling variants include Chizhsky; Cyzhskij; þÉÖÓËÉÊ; þ¦ÖÓ˦Ê). He was Ukrainian and an orthodox. It is said that she forced him to become a catholic (note that in her second marriage, Stanislawa again married an orthodox but this time she was happy to become one as well). It is said that Jakob's father was important in the orthodox church and that Jakob had a few brothers and sisters, all good musicians. In about 1924, Jakob vanishes without a trace while the family was living in Warszawa. My mother, her sister, and all their descendants have no ideas who was this Jakob, where he came from, and what happened to him. This is why I am searching him today, my own grandfather.

Since joining this forum, we have made tremendous progress in understanding the Tarnogórski side of our family.But it is only over the last few days that we have, perhaps, found some references on our Czyżski side. Indeed, we know there is a Jakob Melentevich Chizhsky who was born in 1896 at Rubinovki who was deported to Kazakhstan [Ïðîñìîòð òåìû - Ñïèñîê ðåïðåññèðîâàííûõ èç Óêðàèíû â Êàçàõñòàí :: Ôîðóì ñàéòà poiskpeople.ru "ÈÙÓÙÈÉ ÄÀ ÎÁÐßÙÅÒ" (see No 522). Is he my long lost grandfather? We have also found that in 1914 in Kiev there were no less than 3 Chizhsky in the orthodox church (Äóõîâåíñòâî Êèåâà íà 1914 ãîä
1) Feud., a deacon at the Church Good Nicholas (Pokrovsky, 6)
2) Mel., a deacon at the church Besprihodnye, charitable institutions, the school and homes, Ascension Baikove-Graveyard
3) Nicholas, a graduate student at the Kiev Theological Seminary
There was a Chizhsky family in 1850 at the village of Seleznivka (Selezeniowka) where in 1861 the deacon was Antoni Chizhsky. see Òðîèöêèé õðàì â ñåëå Ñåëåçåíîâêå - Ìîíàñòûðè è Õðàìû - Ñòàòüè - AngelA.org.ua
Finally, another member of our family was Maria Kamila Tarnogórska who was born at Pohrebyszcze (Pogrebisce) in 1862. She was a Polish catholic and married a Stepaniuk who was an orthodox Ukrainian. To marry him she became orthodox.
As indicated in the map below, all these localities are very close to each other. So, I feel that perhaps since 1924 we may now find who was our Czyżski family. Especially with the help of this forum.
tarnogorski-grzymala-families-koziatin-key-towns-copy1.jpg
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Old 28th August 2010, 07:22
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Hannia has done it again! Thanks to her contact Alex, we are now finding new and most interesting information on the Tarnogorski side of our heritage. Thanks Hannia, Alex is a 5 stars historian! But nothing new on the Czyzski front.

Alex has found interesting documents regarding the life of our relative Apolinary Tarnogorski, a Roman Catholic priest. Here is a summary update, although the location of some towns/villages is rather uncertain:

1874: birth of Apolinary Tarnogórski. Father: Teodor Tarnogórski; Mother: Amelia Ostaszewska.
1900 (4 March): ordained priest at Zhytomyr/Zhitomir (Ukraine)
1900 to 1921: Gancewicze/Hancavicy (Belarus; north of Pinsk)
1907: Lyusk, Dubrovycja (Ukraine; north of Sarny)
1909: Strizarskogo (Ukraine; where is this?)
1909: Dubrovycja (Ukraine; north of Sarny)
1909: Kitomirsk (Ukraine; where is this?)
1909: Oratovskogo (Ukraine). Probably same as Orativ, South-east of Kozjatin.
1910: Novgradvolinskogo/Novohrad-Volynskyi (Ukraine; between Grodno and Zhytomyr)
1910: Strizhivskiy (Ukraine; perhaps same as location just south of Seredina-Buda, north-east corner of Ukraine on Russian border)
1926: Szumsk (Ukraine)
1926-1927: Beaulieu/St Etienne (France).
1927 to 1930: Gancewicze/Hancavicy (Belarus; north of Pinsk)
1930: Lunin/Luninec (Belarus; just east of Pinsk)
1956 (5 September): death of Apolinary Tarnogórski at Lubniewice (Poland; north of Zielona Gora)
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Paul,

Although slowly, it is all coming to light. It is your stick-to-it-ness that is paying off.
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Straszów, Lubikowicze, Sarny
Strażnyki, Datyń, Kowel
Stromówka, Poddębce, Łuck
Struga, Antonówka, Sarny
Strzelce Wielkie, Zdołbica, Zdołbunów
Strzelcze, Podberezie, Horochów
Strzelecka, Korytnica, Włodzimierz
Strzelnica, Werba, Włodzimierz
Strzelsk, Lubikowicze, Sarny ???????

You can check out all the places you are unsure of here.
NA SKRÓTY - Alfabetyczny spis miejscowości. Alphabetical listing of Polish place names in Wolin/Vohlyn.
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Old 29th August 2010, 11:59
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Thanks Hannia, I like the one in red; it stays in the general area where he spent most of the first half of his life (sort of between Rivne and Baranavicy).
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Thanks Hannia, I like the one in red; it stays in the general area where he spent most of the first half of his life (sort of between Rivne and Baranavicy).
Hi. I am from Rivne region, Sarny district, from a small town called Klesiv. There is at least one family with the name you are looking for. One of The Targonskiy's is a man of my age - 25 y.o. He was my classmate in a kindergaden. If interested, contact me, maybe i would be able to help you somehow.
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Old 1st September 2010, 22:33
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Hi Pitter, thanks a lot for your message. I have sent you a private email; and yes, I definitely would like to know more about this Targonskiy family, although the surname is not the same. Just in case....
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