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Old 30th March 2010, 14:30
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help finding family roots

I am looking for information on this if anyone can help plz let me know. In 1794 from Ukraine to Kuban the Zaporozhye Cossacks moved. Three families which surname was þÅÒÎÏÇÏÒÅÃ {Chernogorec} Hopefully a start to ancestrial roots Thanks
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Old 30th March 2010, 20:35
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I found that there are still appx 120+ Chernohorets residing in Ukraine today.

Do you know the exact place of origin of your Cossack Families?

According to some of our membership, most of the Don Cossacks came from Poltava, but I have found the surname (originally Bulgarian???) scattered in many parts of Eastern Ukraine today.
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Old 31st March 2010, 12:47
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no we do not know the exact place of origin of the cossack families
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Old 31st March 2010, 13:38
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Honcho is a good nickname for a Cossack descendant.

Beside the historical history, is there any family history that you can provide?

Are the families still in Kuban today? Have you done any archival research?

Since the early 1990's there has been a resurgence of the Cossack movement, totaling appx 3-5 million, in the Krasnodar krai. There are membership organizations that revolve around the Cossack identity. Have you made any contact with them?

There is an important museum of Ukrainian Cossack history on the island of Khortitsia in Zaporizhe.

Photos from Khortytsia
Запорозька Січ на Хортиці


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Old 31st March 2010, 17:42
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Following information may become important at later date???

Post WW2 , Kuban Cossacks in Germany, that had managed to escape Soviet repatriation, immigrated to America and Canada. In Canada, they mainly setted in Ottawa and attended the Bukovynian Orthodox Church. In the USA, their communities were centralized in Jackson & Howell, New Jersey. To date there are still some very important Kuban Cossack documents and artifacts still held in New Jersey. Some regalia has been returned to Krasnodar.


The address of the museum in Howell NJ

Kuban Cossacks Museum
49 East 3rd Street
Howell NJ 07731
Phone:1- 732 -367-0088

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In 2008 there was a Cossack Ataman of the Americas elected. Fascinating.
Cossacks USA - Cossack Rada & Election of Ataman





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Old 2nd April 2010, 19:53
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The name implies that ancestor came from Montenegro (or somewhere from the Balkans). If you do DNA testing on male descendant, there's a big change they might be I2a2 subclade of I2 haplogroup.

Since you know that three families with that name appear in 1st Kuban cossacks 1794 census - you probably know what KUREN (Cossack division/region) they are from. Learning a bit of history of specific kuren, you'll pretty much know where to start looking in Ukraine.
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Old 3rd April 2010, 21:35
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yes there is some family members living in kuban today he is also tryin too get more information for us . Its just so frustrating because both father and grandfather from ukraine has since pasted and don;t really have much too go on . Just birth dates and was told they are ancestors of Nickolay
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