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Old 15th March 2010, 12:04
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Szakály surname

Hello everyone!

I'm picking up the reins of the family genealogy from my mother, who posted here a couple years ago and received some amazing help. Her screen name is Chatsol, for those who might remember her.

I recently discovered additional information on my great grandfather and his mysterious origins. Although he went by the name(s) Vasyl/Basil/Charles Sokol, his naturalization paperwork shows his real name was László Szakály.

László immigrated with a few friends; Gabor Bacsko, Janos Viscsak and Janos Furjarricza. They were on the ship Slavonia, which departed from Fiume (now Rijeka, Croatia) in June of 1906 and arrived in New York in July. They were headed to Wilkes-Barre, PA, where Gabor Bacsko's brother lived.

According to the ship's manifest, his place of last residence was Felso Viznicze, which now appears to be named Verchnja Vyznycia. This corresponds to the information that Hannia gave my mother a couple years back; based on different documents, they determined the names were Vyshnja Vyznyzja (Polish version) and Felsoviznicze (Hungarian Version).

I was unable to locate Verchnja Vyznycia on a map, but did find Verkhnia Vyznytsia - might this be the same place or am I looking in the wrong spot?

In the meantime, I'm now attempting to trace the name László Szakály- and not having much luck. Has anyone come across this surname in their research? Or does anyone have any tips on where I should be looking next?

I look forward to speaking with everyone!
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Old 15th March 2010, 13:00
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Of course, I remember Kathy. How is she? What is your name?
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Felsoviznice is selo/village Verkhnya Vyznytsia (ВЕРХНЯ ВИЗНИЦЯ in Ukrainian)) > Mukachivskij raion/district (formerly Munkacsi)> Zakarpatska oblast/region > Ukraine, latest zip 89644

Tamara, you found it. It is the same place.

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Old 15th March 2010, 13:25
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Nice to meet you Hannia!

I'm Tamara, her youngest. Mom is doing really well. She's been focused on her family's line for awhile now, managing their DNA database, etc. She even got to take a trip several states away to access an archive of family documents.

Since she's been caught up with work and the Manley family, I thought I'd pick up the Sokol/Szakaly line from where she'd left off. She tried to warn me that it was a tangled mess, but like her, I'm stubborn
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Old 16th March 2010, 11:50
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Tamara,

So far I haven't come up w/much.

I did come across an article re the Greek Catholic Church in the selo/village.

The Birth of the Holy Mother of God was a GC Church built in 1836. In 1931 the Soviets converted it to a Russian Orthodox Church. In 2008 the villagers constructed a brand new Birth of the Holy Mother of God Greek Catholic Church.
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Old 16th March 2010, 11:53
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That's a really interesting tidbit. Thank you so much for looking for me!
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Old 16th March 2010, 12:05
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Are you aware that there are Census Records that have been filmed by LDS for Munkacs (BEREG) area?

Following might give you a prep as to what to expect:
Census - Magyar - Slovakia

PS> There is something that is really puzzling me. Why would GGrandfather use a Hungarian surname? Was he running from military conscription? What language did he use at home?

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Old 16th March 2010, 12:28
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T,

You might want to look into these LDS films and see if your ancestral village is included.

Title
Общественные документы, 1854-1929

Authors
Правление Мукачевской греко-католической епархии. Ужгород (Main Author)

Notes
This is a preliminary description provided to allow immediate microfilm access.
Микрофильмированное издание рукописей в Государственном архиве Закарпатской области в г. Ужгороде, Украина.
Public records (lists of citizens and homeowners, lists of students, census tables, miscellaneous documents) for multiple locations in Ungvár, Ung, Hungary and Ung district; later Užhorod, Podkarpatská Rus, Czechoslovakia; now Uz︠h︡horod, Zakarpatti︠a︡, Ukraine and for Munkács, Bereg, Hungary; later Mukačevo, Podkarpatská Rus, Czechoslovakia; now Mukacheve, Zakarpatti︠a︡, Ukraine. Text in Russian and Ukrainian.
Фонд 43, опись 1, дела 15, 182, 1471 -- Фонд 43, опись 7, дело 408 -- Фонд 43, опись 10, дело 52 -- Фонд 151, опись 17, дела 1363-1372 -- Фонд 1026, опись 1, дела 314, 321, 406, 587-591.

Subjects
Hungary, Ung - Public records
Hungary, Ung, Ungvár - Public records
Czechoslovakia, Podkarpatská Rus, Užhorod - Public records
Укра╖на, Закарпаття, Ужгород - Громадськ╕ документи
Ukraine, Zakarpatti︠a︡, Uz︠h︡horod - Public records
Hungary, Bereg, Munkács - Public records
Czechoslovakia, Podkarpatská Rus, Mukačevo - Public records
Укра╖на, Закарпаття, Мукачеве - Громадськ╕ документи
Ukraine, Zakarpatti︠a︡, Mukacheve - Public records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Russian
Ukrainian

Publication
Солт Лейк Сити [С.Ш.А.] : Микрофильмирован Генеалогическим обществом штата Юта, 2004-2006

Physical
на 5 микрофильмах ; 35 мм

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1363 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 7 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1364 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 8 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1365 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 9 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1366 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 10 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1367 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 11 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1367 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 11 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1368 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 12 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1369 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 13 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1370 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 14 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1371 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 15 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1372 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 16 ]
Ф. 151, о. 17, д. 1373 Списки детей школьного возраста 1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 2391580 Item 17 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 314 Рапоряжения, протоколы, прошения о крестьянах, списки помещиков и бывших крепостных 1854-1855 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267584 Item 6 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 321 Список нетрудоспособных жителей 1854 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267584 Item 7 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 406 Список зачисленных в школу детей 1855 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267584 Item 9 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 587 Таблицы переписи населения 1857 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267584 Item 11 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 588 (закончено на стр. 57) Таблицы переписи населения 1857 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267584 Item 12 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 588 (продолжено на стр. 57) Таблицы переписи населения 1857 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267585 Item 1 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 589 Таблицы переписи населения 1857 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267585 Item 2 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 590 Таблицы переписи населения 1857 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267585 Item 3 ]
Ф. 1026, о. 1, д. 591 Таблицы переписи населения 1857 - FHL INTL Film [ 2267585 Item 4 ]
Ф. 43, о. 1, д. 15 Список жителей 1920 - FHL INTL Film [ 2399280 Item 3 ]
Ф. 43, о. 1, д. 182 Список польских подданых 1920 - FHL INTL Film [ 2399280 Item 6 ]
Ф. 43, о. 1, д. 1471 Списки жителей - FHL INTL Film [ 2399280 Item 13 ]
Ф. 43, о. 1, д. 1471 Списки жителей - FHL INTL Film [ 2399280 Item 13 ]
Ф. 43, о. 1, д. 1471 Списки жителей - FHL INTL Film [ 2399280 Item 13 ]
Ф. 43, о. 7, д. 408 Списки домовладельцев - FHL INTL Film [ 2410442 Item 3 ]
Ф. 43, о. 7, д. 408 Списки домовладельцев - FHL INTL Film [ 2410442 Item 3 ]
Ф. 43, о. 7, д. 408 Списки домовладельцев - FHL INTL Film [ 2410442 Item 3 ]
Ф. 43, о. 10, д. 52 Списки иностранцев 1929 - FHL INTL Film [ 2410442 Item 7 ]
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