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Old 8th March 2010, 16:45
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Prokop Family in Hluboka

Trying to learn about my Prokop heritage. My grandparents, John Prokop and Elizabeth Toth Prokop, emigrated to the United States before 1900. I would like to learn more about my ancestry. Is anyone available to do research at the Archives?
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Old 8th March 2010, 18:57
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Hello Blanche.

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Hluboka/Hlyboka (means DEEP) is a common place name in what is Ukraine today.

My guess is that your John and Elizabeth Prokop emigrated from what was Hungary > Austro-Hungarian Empire at the time.

Prior to 1900 that area was one of the first areas of emigration from Eastern Europe to America.

Where did your Grandparents settle upon immigration?

Do you have any idea of birth yrs for one or both? What religion did they practice?

PS> I quickly looked at 1930 Census. There was a John (appx dob 1868?) and Elizabeth w/three sons George, Stephen and Patrick, in McKeesport PA. Is this your family?

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Old 9th March 2010, 03:26
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Prokop Family in Hluboka

Hello Hannia,

Yes, John & Elizabeth Prokop settled in McKeesport, Pa. They are my grandparents. I have successfully found related information regarding the family here in America. My "brickwall" is learning about their ancestry. John Prokop's father was named Michael, his mother was Barbara Colena. This information was obtained from John's application for Social Security. They belonged to St. Nicholas Greek Catholic Church, in McKeesport. John was born Oct. 13, 1871 and died Jan. 7, 1946. Elizabeth was born Sept. 26, 1874 and died Nov. 23, 1956. On baptizmal records for one of their children, they list Hluboka as their place of birth.
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Old 9th March 2010, 05:33
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4 Hlyboka villages

Four villages in western Ukraine (on territory which before 1918 belonged to Austro-Hungarian Empire):

1. Hlyboka (Staryi Sambir raion, Lviv oblast) postal code 82052

2. Hlyboka (Bogorodchany raion, Ivano-Frankivsk oblast) 77720

3. Hlyboka (Kolomyia raion, Ivano-Frankivsk oblast) 78223

4. Hlyboka (Hlyboka raion, Ivano-Frankivsk oblast) - 60400-60406 (small town - administrative center of the Hlybotsky raion)
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Old 9th March 2010, 07:07
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Hello Viktor. It's been quite a while since you've been here. How are you?

Blanche is looking for Hlyboka/today Hlyboke > Uzhorodskij raion. Her Grandfather was a Carpatho-Rusyn/Ruthene.
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Blanche:

As per Ellis Island I found a Janos Prokop (Janos is Hungrian name for John) arriving in NY 1/27/1903. This was his third trip from Hlyboka > Hungary > Austro-Hungarian Empire. He was heading for his brother-in -law's (John Klepacs???) in Mckeesport. Appx age 31.

From late 18th century into the Interwar Period Hluboká (Hung, name Melyut) > Ung megve/county > Karpatajla > Kingdom of Hungary > Austro-Hungarian Empire. In the Interwar Period it was part of Subcarpathia > Czechoslovakia. Post WW2 it became a part of SSR Ukraine.

Today selo/village Hlyboke is located near the Solotvynka River (coordinates 48.33-22.25 on Rte M17) and is clustered with selo Ruski Komarivtsi > Uzhorodskij raion/district > Zakarpatska oblast/region > Ukraine, latest zip 89433. Population 577.

I checked Hlyboke phone directory for your surnames. Only 2 Tovt listed. Many villagers have moved to the larger towns and cities for economic reasons and there are 10+ Prokop listed in Uzhorod. The other consideration is that in these rural areas, telephones are still considered a luxury for many.

Your inquiry will have to be submitted to the Uzhorod Archives. Unfortunatey this area of Ukraine is not available on LDS Films, not yet anyway. I can recommend a local, who has a gd relationship w/the infamously difficult archives director. Maxym's rates are very fair and he does come w/references. Additionally, if you like, he can make a personal inquiry on your behalf in the village and ask about any surviving relatives still residing there. He interviews any extended family members and e-mails video to you. As per my agreement w/him, I cannot post his e-mail here, because he does not want to be inundated w/inquiries, in which place names have not been checked. If you are interested, you can e-mail me MITEHELP@AOL.COM and I will provide you contact e-mail.
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Old 10th March 2010, 15:39
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Blanche,

The history section is especially interesting.

Transkarpatien (English version)
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Old 10th March 2010, 15:45
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This kind of reading provides color for your famiy tree.

Following quaint little book from Canadian Archives details life in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, concentrating mainly on the Carpathian regions.

Written by Palmer in 1903. English language. Well worth the 400 page read. Last few chapters cover subjects of education, religion and language. Blocked arrows at top of page are the page turners. Right = forward and left = back.

Austro-Hungarian life in town and ... - Google Books
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