Fedelesciak in Gajdos? + Korol, Mytrowka, Michalko

[Familygirl]

Hello everyone,

I am trying to find information on my paternal grandfather's parents and grandparents - and anyone else we may be related to. Zlatica from Ancestry.com's forums was kind enough to suggest this site to me. I would be so grateful for any help or guidance that anyone could provide.

My grandfather, John Fedlock, was born in 1911 in Fayette County, Pennsylvania. I'm not sure what the name on his birth certificate says (I have ordered a copy of it). On his baptism certificate it says "John Fedelescsak (Fedlock)" . He was baptised at St. Stephen's in Leisenring, PA. It's a Byzantine Catholic church. I also have his application to become a member in the juvenile department of the Greek Catholic Russian Pravoslavny Brotherhood. It's a little difficult to read but I believe it lists his nationality as "Russniak"

His father was Mitro/Metro/Dmitry Fedelescsak/Fedelesciak/Fedelock/Fedlock (I have seen his name written all these ways). He was born in 1882 or 1883. According to his WWII draft card he was born in "Gaydosh?" (Gajdos). I believe he came to the US sometime between 1902-1904 (not sure though).

In 1907 he married Mary Korol in Manhattan, NY (they also had their first child Charles in New York before moving to Pennsylvania). According to their marriage certificate (on familysearch.org) Mitro's parents were Theodore Fedelesciak and Mary Michalko. I may have found Theodore and Mary (listed as "Fedock") in the 1920 US census living in Northumberland, PA (not sure though).

I have very little information on Mary. I believe she was born around 1890 and she died around 1921. On the marriage certificate her parents were listed as Vasyl Korol and Ahaphia Mytrowka. On my GF's baptism certificate it lists her name as "Koroly" but his death certificate said "Korol". The baptism certificate also says "Child of Nicholas Fedelescsak (Fedlock) gr.cafr". I have no idea why it says "Nicholas" when everthing else says "Dmitry" or "Mitro/Metro".

I'm sorry this is so long. I'm just very confused. Thank you for reading all this.

[Hannia]

Your families were Rusyn/Russniaks (NOT SAME AS RUSSIAN) who emigrated from Nagygajdos (today called Gajdos/Haidosh) > Ungvar megyve (county) > Kingdom of Hungary/Austro-Hungarian Empire. Today this immediate area is in the Carpathian Mtns of Ukraine and your selo/village is hamlet size and consists of appx 450+ souls. It is clustered with selo Kyblyary, with which it shares the post ofc and village administration. It is specifically in the Uzhorod district of the Zakarpatska oblast/region.

Map of Latitude: 48.600000 Longitude: 22.566700, by MapQuest

Following are all the same surnames as your family members that I could find so far by searching Ellis Island using village name. Marya is very likely your Mary?

17 Fedelcsak, Fedor Nagygajdos, Hungary 39 1869 1908
18 Fedelescsak, Mihaly Nagygajdos 41 1865
19 Fedelescsak, Mihaly Nagygajdas, Hungary 43 1866 1909
20 Fedelesczak, Michal Nagygajdos, Hungary 24 1888 1912
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40 Karoly, Gyorgy Nagygajdos 23 1883 1906 view view view view view
41 Karoly, Maria Nagygajdos, Hungary 16 1895 1911

[Familygirl]

Thank you so much for your help Hannia!

Are Haidosh and Kyblyary difficult to travel to? I would love to visit someday. Do you know how I would go about figuring out if I have any relatives in the area?

If you don't mind, I was wondering if I could ask you a couple more questions. First off, when I write to request records which last name (and first name) spelling do you think I should use or should I include all variartions?

I looked at the records you suggested except for Gyorgy Karoly because every time I tried to view the manifest it kept showing me a different ship. I sent ei a message about it so hopefully that will be corrected soon. Unfortunately I don't think that the Mary Karoly you suggested could be my Mary since my Great-grandparents were married in New York in 1907 and that Mary didn't arrive until 1911. I didn't see any other Korol's or Karoly's from Nagygajdos. I did find a Vasul Karoly who seemed about right age wise but he was from Turjavagas? Is that near Nagygajdos? Is it possible that Mary and Mitro met in New York or do you think it's more probable that they knew each other before moving?

Thank you sooo much!
Kim

[Hannia]

Hello Kim.

Today the rest of my time is limited, however I did want to greet you.

I did check Haidosh. There was one person, whose surname was similar, but I checked it out and it was distinctly a different surname. Knowing that many villagers have migrated to the larger cities for economic reasons, I checked Uzhorod and found four families w/Fedeleschak (Феделещак in Ukrainian) surname.

Meanwhile I do not suggest making any inquiries until we get a better paper trial in States. We are lucky to have zarjacks (Ruth), a member here and a master at finding documentation. Let's give her a little time to see what she could find. Be patient.

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I love the Carpathian Mtns. It takes a little effort to get to the villages, but I have yet to meet anyone who has thought that it wasn't worthwhile. The region has become tourist oriented, so I don't foresee you having a problem. You could stay in Uzhorod or even at a mountain beauty spa. There are summer wine festivals and lots of skiers during the winter. It is a beautiful place.

I will get back to you tomorrow.

[zarjacks]

Kim,
I just had time to do one search for your grandfather Dmytro. I will only give you the items you may not have.

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
about Demeter Fedelescsak
Name: Demeter Fedelescsak
Arrival Date: 28 Aug 1901
Age: 17 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Ship Name: Pennland
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Mike Labovscki (bro-in-law)
Last Residence: Igleinz (he may have been working there before he left?)
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_35

1910 United States Federal Census
about Metrs Fedelecak
Name: Metrs Fedelecak
[Metro Fedelecak]
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Hungary
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Hungary
Mother's Birth Place: Hungary
Home in 1910: South Huntingdon, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902

The following may be his brothers or cousins:

Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934
about Janos Fedelescsak
Name: Janos Fedelescsak
Departure Date: 22 Jun 1905
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Age Year: 26
Gender: männlich (Male)
Marital Status: verheiratet (Married)
Family: Household members
Residence: Nagygajdos
Ethnicity/Nationality: Ungarn (Hungarian)
Occupation: Landmann, Tagelöhner

Ship Name: Blücher
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Dover; Boulogne-sur-Mer; New York

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 167
Page: 1398
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1789

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Mergsil Fedalesczak
Name: Mergsil Fedalesczak
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1912
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: slovakian
Ship Name: Amerika
Search Ship Database: View the Amerika in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Hungary
Line: 8
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1977
Birth Location: Hungary
Birth Location Other: vagyagados
Page Number: 67

When I have more time I will search for the others.
Ruth

[Familygirl]

Ruth: WOW!! When Hannia called you a master at finding documentation she wasn't kidding. You are amazing! I can't believe you were able to find him so fast. My father has always spoken of his grandfather with so much reverence and awe in his voice. I know he will be ecstatic to have the information I've learned from you and Hannia. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Hannia: That was so kind of you to take the time to greet me on a day when your time was restricted. I really appreciate it and I can be as patient as I have to be - after all you are the one doing me the favor. I would never be impatient, only very, very grateful for anything you have the time or inclination to do. That's so exciting that you found people I may be related to already. Wow.

I have decided to learn Ukranian because I definitely want to visit!

[Hannia]

The history section is especially interesting.

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