Fedelesciak in Gajdos? + Korol, Mytrowka, Michalko

[zarjacks]

Kim, the records for Marya are a bit confusing as it looks like she came over twice??

Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934
about Maria Korol Name: Maria Korol
Departure Date: 25 Nov 1905
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Age Year: 15
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Marital Status: ledig (Single)
Family: Household members
Residence: Pohorilce
Ethnicity/Nationality: Österreich (Austrian)

Ship Name: Patricia
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Cuxhaven; Dover; Boulogne; New York

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 172
Page: 2481
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1792

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Marya Korol Name: Marya Korol
Arrival Date: 11 Dec 1905
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Age: 15
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Ruthenian (Russniak) (Ruthenian)
Ship Name: Patricia
Search Ship Database: View the Patricia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 4
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_648
Page Number: 37

On the NY List her town of origin looks like 'Podhajce" or 'Fodhajce'

Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934
about Marya Korol Name: Marya Korol
Departure Date: 11 Sep 1910
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Age Year: 19
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Marital Status: ledig (Single)
Family: Household members
Residence: Podhajcze
Ethnicity/Nationality: Galizien (Galician)
Occupation: Hausm.

Ship Name: Graf Waldersee
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: New York

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 226
Page: 2070
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1815

When I looked at Marya's household members the following people came up:
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Name: Hawrylo Korol
Departure Date: 16 Apr 1912
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Age Year: 45
Gender: männlich (Male)
Marital Status: verheiratet (Married)
Residence: Horozanka
Ethnicity/Nationality: Österreich (Austrian)
Occupation: Landmann, Tagelöhner

Ship Name: Graf Waldersee
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Halifax

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 244
Page: 766
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1822

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Hawrylo Korol 16 Apr 1912 abt 1867 Halifax Graf Waldersee
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Name: Philipp Korol
Departure Date: 24 Nov 1906
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Age Year: 35
Gender: männlich (Male)
Marital Status: verheiratet (Married)
Residence: Saslaw
Ethnicity/Nationality: Russland (Russian)
Occupation: Landmann, Tagelöhner

Ship Name: Graf Waldersee
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Cuxhaven; Boulogne; Plymouth; New York

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 184
Page: 2839
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1797

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Philipp Korol 24 Nov 1906 abt 1871 Cuxhaven; Boulogne; Plymouth; New York Graf Waldersee
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Name: Ilko Korol
Departure Date: 16 Dez 1905 (16 Dec 1905)
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Age Year: 26
Gender: männlich (Male)
Marital Status: verheiratet (Married)
Residence: T. Mokra
Ethnicity/Nationality: Ungarn (Hungarian)
Occupation: Landmann, Tagelöhner

Ship Name: Graf Waldersee
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Cuxhaven; Dover; Boulogne-sur-Mer; New York

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 173
Page: 2624
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1792

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Ilko Korol 16 Dez 1905 (16 Dec 1905) abt 1879 Cuxhaven; Dover; Boulogne-sur-Mer; New York Graf Waldersee
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Name: Johann Korol
Departure Date: 25 Dez 1909 (25 Dec 1909)
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age Year: 20
Gender: männlich (Male)
Marital Status: ledig (Single)
Residence: Saruki
Ethnicity/Nationality: Galizien (Galician)
Occupation: Landmann, Tagelöhner

Ship Name: Graf Waldersee
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Reichspostdampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Cuxhaven; New York

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 217
Page: 2856
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1811

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Johann Korol 25 Dez 1909 (25 Dec 1909) abt 1889 Cuxhaven; New York Graf Waldersee
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Marya Korol 11 Sep 1910 abt 1891 New York Graf Waldersee
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Name: Anna Korol
Departure Date: 14 Jun 1911
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age Year: 18
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Marital Status: ledig (Single)
Residence: Turya
Ethnicity/Nationality: Ungarn (Hungarian)
Occupation: Hausmädchen

Ship Name: Graf Waldersee
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Cuxhaven; Philadelphia

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 235
Page: 1152
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1818

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Anna Korol 14 Jun 1911 abt 1893 Cuxhaven; Philadelphia Graf Waldersee

I also searched for her under her married name and found another Maria Fedeleschak who may be a sister of your grandfather. It shows her father's name as 'Wasil" I think. Here is her info:


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Maria Fedeleszezak
Name: Maria Fedeleszezak
Arrival Date: 1 Dec 1911
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: slovakian
Ship Name: Patricia
Search Ship Database: View the Patricia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Hungary
Line: 12
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1778
Birth Location: Hungary
Birth Location Other: gejdro (actually says 'Gajdos'
Page Number: 149

More stuff to absorb and sort out!
Ruth

[Familygirl]

That is definitely a lot to absorb and sort out! Thank you so much, Ruth. That's so fascinating that she may have come over twice. I've been trying to do some reading on the time period and I did read that sometimes people came to the States and then went home (presumably to tell others about working conditions and what life in the States was like). I am so excited to sort through all of this. I hope that someday there is something I can do for you and Hannia to repay you for your kindness.

Kim

P.S. Hannia, that site was so fascinating. Thanks for posting it! I learned a lot.

[zarjacks]

Kim,
Here is one more that Hannia mentioned earlier who may be your GGrandfather from NagyGajdos; says he is going to brotherinlaw named "Pavlius N/Mikulo" - with little mark over the 'u'? Or maybe Mikulo is his first name?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Mihály Fedelescsák
Name: Mihály Fedelescsák
Arrival Date: 9 Jul 1906
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Fiume
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Slovenian
Ship Name: Pannonia
Search Ship Database: Search the Pannonia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 13
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_738
Page Number: 131

Also if you look a couple of lines below him there's another man named "Vassily Koreluski??" from the same village who says he's going to the same brotherinlaw. Could this be Marya Korel's father ? You need to examine these records carefully and there are so many people who may all be somehow related. Good luck!

[Familygirl]

Hi Ruth,
I did look at this record and thought it looked good but I'm having such a hard time deciphering the handwriting so I couldn't understand the line about his brother-in-law so thank you for clearing that up. I am stil trying to look at one of the other records Hannia recommnended for Gyorgy Koroly I think. I'm just having such a hard time trying to sort it all out but I'm trying and with all of your and Hannia's help (and my friends Zlatica and Lajos) I'm sure I will eventually get it all sorted out.

I'm not sure if the Marya who came over in 1910 is my Marya since by that point she was already married unless it was common to travel by your maiden name? Was that something women did sometimes?

I found Podhajce online on Jewishgen.org. The site said the city is called Podgaytsy now but Podhajce was the Polish spelling. Do you think my ggrandmother was Jewish? I only ask because aside from finding her city on Jewishgen.org, according to Ancestry.com "Korol" is a Ukrainian Jewish name. Was inter-faith marriage something that happened back then? Just curious.

Again, thank you so much for everything.

[Hannia]

I found Podhajce online on Jewishgen.org. The site said the city is called Podgaytsy now but Podhajce was the Polish spelling. Do you think my ggrandmother was Jewish? I only ask because aside from finding her city on Jewishgen.org, according to Ancestry.com "Korol" is a Ukrainian Jewish name. Was inter-faith marriage something that happened back then? Just curious.

We get our info where we can. Jewishgen is a site w/strong financial support and it provides lots of sophisticated databases, open to everyone. I personally use Mapquest via Shtetlseeker.com for geographical location and Steve Morse for Immigration Records. These tremendously facilitate our searches. Click on them and take a look.

AND Marya was not Jewish.

JewishGen ShtetlSeeker – Town Search

One-Step Webpages by Stephen P. Morse

PS> Were you hit hard by blizzard? Lucky for us in NYC, we are just being grazed by the storm.

[Hannia]

This kind of reading provides color for your famiy tree.

Following quaint little book from Canadian Archives details life in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, concentrating mainly on the Carpathian regions.

Written by Palmer in 1903. English language. Well worth the 400 page read. Last few chapters cover subjects of education, religion and language.

Austro-Hungarian life in town and ... - Google Books

[zarjacks]

"I'm not sure if the Marya who came over in 1910 is my Marya since by that point she was already married unless it was common to travel by your maiden name? Was that something women did sometimes? "

She might travel with her maiden name if those were the only travel documents she had. I forget if she said she was married or single in 1910?
Ruth