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Old 8th October 2009, 10:10
Chonya Chonya is offline
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My parents came from what is now western Ukraine: Olesko and Chieshke (close to Brody/Lviv). What I'd like to do is find the names of my ancestors and their dates of birth, marriage, and death. I know that my paternal grandparents were Ivan Bachynski and Kcenia Gerus, and my maternal grandparents were Peter Mazaj and Katarina Deneszszuk. Beyond that I have no idea, and I'd really like to go back at least one more generation or two. Can anyone please help me in that endeavor?

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Old 8th October 2009, 15:16
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Your parents were from what is called the Zolochiv (formerly called Zloczow >Tarnipol wojiwodstwo/region under Reconstituted Poland) raion/district in the Lvivska oblast/region, what was/is frequently referred to as the Historical Halyczyna/Galicia Province. Selo/village Olesko is technically in the Busko district today.

Olesko was a large village w/its own Greek and Roman Catholic Churches.

The other village Chieshke was called Chilczyce. It too was in Zloczow district. It was hamlet size and the filial GC Church was in Poczapy. Pochapy remains in Zolochiv district today. I am not 100% sure that our villages are the same here. Needs further research. It is the wrong hamlet!!! I will provide details in separate post.

What is the time frame that you are researching?

PS> The Bachynskij Meatmarket in NYC is my favorite Ukrainian butcher. Are you any relation?

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Old 8th October 2009, 15:34
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LDS has filmed all church (GC, RC, and German Lutheran) registers for Olesko. Dates vary.

These may cover your Grandparents??? If Grandparents were GC, you can go back quite a few generations.

Title
Metrical books, 1784-1904

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Olesko (Olesko) (Main Author)

Notes
Mikrofilm zrobiony z rękopisów w Archiwum Państwowe, Warszawa.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 4186-4200, 6974-6980.
Greek Catholic parish registers and transcripts of births, marriages and deaths for Olesko, Galicia, Austria; later Olesko (Złoczów), Tarnopol, Poland; now Olesko, L'viv, Ukraine.
For some years the records of this locality are mixed with the records of other localities.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Olesko (Olesko) - Church records
Poland, Tarnopol, Olesko (Złoczów) - Church records
õËÒÁ§ÎÁ, ìØ×¦×, âÕÓØË, ïÌÅÓØËÏ - íÅÔÒÉÞΦ ËÎÉÇÉ
Ukraine, L′viv, Bus′k, Oles′ko - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Polish
Russian

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1971-2003

Physical
on 5 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Akta urodzeń, małżeństw, zgonów 1845 - FHL INTL Film [ 766075 Item 13 ]
Volume 201-4A/4186 Births 1784-1827 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/4187 Births 1784-1845 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 5 ]
Volume 201-4A/4188 Marriages 1784-1846 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 6 ]
Volume 201-4A/4189 Marriages 1784-1846 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/4190 Deaths 1784-1846 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/4191 Deaths 1784-1847 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 9 ]
Volume 201-4A/4192 Deaths 1784-1850 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 10 ]
Volume 201-4A/4193 Marriages 1784-1859 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 11 ]
Volume 201-4A/4194 Births 1823-1842 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2343842 Item 12 ]
Volume 201-4A/4194 (cont.) Births 1842-1846 - FHL INTL Film [ 2343843 Item 1 ]
Volume 201-4A/4195 Births 1827-1848 - FHL INTL Film [ 2343843 Item 2 ]
Volume 201-4A/4196 Births, marriages, deaths 1835-1836 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1839-1840 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2343843 Item 3 ]
Volume 201-4A/4197 Births, marriages, deaths 1841-1844 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2343843 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/4198 Births, marriages, deaths 1847-1852 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2343843 Item 5 ]
Volume 201-4A/4199 Births, marriages, deaths 1853-1859 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2343843 Item 6 ]
Volume 201-4A/4200 Births, marriages, deaths 1860-1865 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2343843 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/6974 Deaths 1784-1904 - FHL INTL Film [ 2385380 Item 2 ]
Volume 201-4A/6975 Births 1836-1867 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2385380 Item 3 ]
Volume 201-4A/6976 Births 1848-1867 - FHL INTL Film [ 2385380 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/6977 Deaths 1850-1882 - FHL INTL Film [ 2385380 Item 5 ]
Volume 201-4A/6978 Births 1854-1896 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2385380 Item 6 ]
Volume 201-4A/6979 Births 1867-1888 - FHL INTL Film [ 2385380 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/6980 Births 1866-1887 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2385380 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/6980 (cont.) Births 1887-1900 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2385381 Item 1 ]
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Old 8th October 2009, 15:45
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Pochapy is still in Zolochiv district today. Here LDS has filmed only the very old records. You may need some help to cover the interim time frame between filmed and non-filmed records.

Title
Metrical books, 1784-1865

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Poczapy (Złoczów) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for Poczapy (Złoczów), Galizien, Austria; later Poczapy (Złoczów), Tarnopol, Poland; now Pochapy, Zolochiv, L′viv, Ukraine. Text in Latin and Russian.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 4695-4700.
For some years the records of this locality are mixed with the records of other localities.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Poczapy (Złoczów) - Church records
Poland, Tarnopol, Poczapy (Złoczów) - Church records
õËÒÁ§ÎÁ, ìØ×¦×, úÏÌÏÞ¦×, ðÏÞÁÐÉ - íÅÔÒÉÞΦ ËÎÉÇÉ
Ukraine, L′viv, Zolochiv, Pochapy - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Russian

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 2002

Physical
on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 201-4A/4695 Deaths 1784-1844 - FHL INTL Film [ 2347165 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/4696 Births 1784-1846 - FHL INTL Film [ 2347165 Item 5 ]
Volume 201-4A/4697 Births, marriages, deaths 1834-1841 (no deaths 1834; includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2347165 Item 6 ]
Volume 201-4A/4698 Births, marriages, deaths 1842-1849 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2347165 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/4699 Births, marriages, deaths 1850-1857 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2347165 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/4700 Births, marriages, deaths 1858-1859 -- Births, deaths 1861 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2347165 Item 9 ]
Volume 201-4A/4700 (cont.) Marriages 1861 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1860 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1862-1865 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2347145 Item 1 ]
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Old 8th October 2009, 16:17
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þ¦ÛËÉ = Chishky (in ëÕÔÉ/Kuty village cluster today) > also in Buskij raion >Lvvska oblast

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Old 8th October 2009, 16:20
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Hannia - do you mean village þÉÛËÉ (ã¦ÛËÉ) - Ciszki?? It is still in the Busk district - it is nearly adjacent to Olesko and was quite a large village - nearly 800 souls - and had its own church.
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Old 8th October 2009, 16:27
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Hello Irene.

Yes, I just verified that.

I like everyone to see how easy it is to make mistakes when looking for these villages.

According to the Gazetteer, Ciszki has several different official spellings even in the same historical periods.
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GC Church Records are available on LDS Films.

Title
Metrical books, 1784-1900

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Ciszki (Olesko) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of manuscripts at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for Ciszki (aka Czyżki) (Olesko), Galizien, Austria; later Czyżki (Brody), Tarnopol, Poland; now Chyshky, Bus′k, L′viv, Ukraine. Text in Latin with some headings in Russian.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 2911-2912, 3206, 5910-5913, 5987, 7170.
For some years the records of this locality are mixed with the records of other localities.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Ciszki (Olesko) - Church records
Poland, Tarnopol, Czyżki (Brody) - Church records
õËÒÁ§ÎÁ, ìØ×¦×, âÕÓØË, þÉÛËÉ - íÅÔÒÉÞΦ ËÎÉÇÉ
Ukraine, L′viv, Bus′k, Chyshky - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Russian

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 2001-2004

Physical
on 6 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 201-4A/2911 Births, marriages, deaths 1835-1836 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1839-1844 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1847-1852 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289678 Item 3 ]
Volume 201-4A/2912 Births, marriages, deaths 1853-1862 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289678 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/3206 Births, marriages, deaths 1863-1865 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289634 Item 3 ]
Volume 201-4A/5910 Births 1784-1824 - FHL INTL Film [ 2373800 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/5911 Deaths 1784-1855 - FHL INTL Film [ 2373800 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/5912 Births, marriages, deaths 1835-1859 - FHL INTL Film [ 2373800 Item 9 ]
Volume 201-4A/5913 Births 1846-1867 - FHL INTL Film [ 2373800 Item 10 ]
Volume 201-4A/5987 Births 1824-1846 - FHL INTL Film [ 2373855 Item 11 ]
Volume 201-4A/7170 Births 1866-1900 -- Marriages 1866-1869 -- Deaths 1868 -- Marriages, deaths 1875 (out of order; includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2389081 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/7170 (cont.) Marriages 1870-1900 -- Deaths 1866-1900 -- Births 1870 (out of order; includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2389082 Item 1 ]
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