Piatak's in Ukraine - Austria

[Kenappat]

Searching the surname Piatak. Family originally from the Ukraine - Austria....Carpathian Mountains.
Searching for relatives links from that area. Most likely Greek Catholic - Ruthenian. Might have come from Mosciska or Starzawa. Thanks for any help.

[Hannia]

Starzawa was in Mosciska .

Isn't this the village that was divided in half by Poland and Ukraine???

Records should be in Pzremysl Archives ???

[Kenappat]

Thank you for your reply. Yes. I do believe this village was divided in half. Records show he was born in Moscisca but came from Starzawa. A researcher there claimed to have looked at all the Greek Catholic Records & checked in Warsaw.& did not have any luck. I was told that this area is very difficult to research & locate records. Someone advised he came from the Stubno area. I would love to find someone in that area who would be dedicated & search for his records. Pat

[Hannia]

Someone advised he came from the Stubno area.

Gmina (rural judicial/tax district) Stubno contains the villages and settlements of Barycz, Chałupki Dusowskie, Gaje, Hruszowice, Kalników, Kolonia Stubno, Kowaliki, Nakło, Pogorzelec, (Polish side) Starzawa, Stubienko, Stubno and Zagroble. Przemysl was/is the powiat/county!!! Did your researcher check the Pzremysl Archives?

Records from Stubno would be cadastral (property/ownership) in nature??? Metrykal data would also be in Przemysl Archives.

What are you trying to accomplish?

Are you trying to locate Ukrainian family in Poland?

Records show he was born in Moscisca

Do you have an actual copy of the documentation?

Keep in mind that immigrants frequently referred to their district center as place of origin for geographical reasons, because their villages were small and would be difficult to locate????

Wegnier

Looks like a German surname ? Are you aware that Galizien Germans w/entire families were evacuated in 1939?

[Hannia]

There are 169 individuals w/this surname currently living in Poland.

Surname Piątak appears in 31 different counties and towns there.

1. m. Ostrołęka (30)
2. Zielona Góra (25)
3. Ostrowiec Świętokrzyski (16)
4. Hrubieszów (13)
5. Gryfino (9)
6. Nowa Sól (9)
7. Goleniów (7)
8. Starachowice (7)
9. Lubliniec (5)
10. Słupsk (5)

In 1947 many Ukrainians in Poland were resettled to what were fallow former German territories, places like Zielona Gora.

[Kenappat]

To all you wonderful people who are trying to help me. First, I am in the U.S. so territories in that area are not familiar to me. Jozef Piatak was my grandfather. I am trying to locate the records of his birth & those of his ancestors. I have been trying for years. Last year I hired a researcher who said she was familiar with the area. She has not produced any results. I have located all the documents that are available on him in the U.S. His US Social Security card states he was born in Moscisca. His ships immigration listed Starzawa. It is interesting (reply to Wegnier) that on Jozef's ship's immigration record he stated he left a step-father Michael Wegier. In Jozef's obit it stated he left a brother in Austria. I was not aware that entire families were evacuated. I located several military sheets that are in German which looks like a Military pass- it's heading is Militarpab. dated 1911 Inf. Rgmt. 89 but on this his name is spelled PiatEk, while all else is spelled PiatAk. I would have to go thru my copies of the researchers e-mails to advise you of where she looked.
Briefly stated the Ukrainian Archives stated nothing in Greek Catholic records of Starzawa. I wrote to Central State Archives of Ukraine, City of Lviv. Two professional friends of mine in the US think that records may be in the Starzawa AGAD in Warsaw. (Don't know what that is). Also stated that possibly a visit to the Zahs/Rahs in Starzawa (Stariava) may help. I know Jozef's mothers first name was Ewa.
The sad thing is that my mother (age 90) Jozefs daughter wanted to know of her father (she is still living) & I don't think I can make her wish come true. I refuse to give-up & I thank everyone for their help. Pat.
P.S. Jozef's wife (my grandmother) came from Starzawa. I have searched the LDS tapes & I found my grandmother & several names very very similiar to Wegier Wengryn Wegnier. I wonder if that is a clue?
Any many thanks to all.

[Victor Lviv]

- checked Lviv Archives today - actually Greek-Catholic inventories aren't available now (as they are renewed) - but managed to get list of newly-added files.
- So - Stariava metrical book is just added - #201/4a/7982 - dated 1886-1919 years - 199 sheets (about 400 pages).
- I may order it and search for records of your family. If interested - contact me - lvivtravel@yahoo.com or PM.

- Stariava seems to be worth seeing - as village is really divided by border:



- if you want to get pictures of village (also cemetery, and possibly - of tombstones with names of your relatives) - I may drive there - even to both Polish and Ukrainian parts.

Actually about month ago I was to other border village - Variazh, - was making pictures at cemetery there - saw some barbed-wired fence - checked it of curiosity - and at the last moment realised that it' borderline!
That's how border looks (cemetery is about 10m from it):



P.S. - at Archives there are also 6 files (could be books and maps) of cadastral (land) records from Stariava - dated 1849, 1877, 1879 (three) and 19 century.