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Old 9th August 2008, 17:43
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Beszlej Family - Kosovets, Gorodek

Hello,

I am truly excited about this forum and am amazed about how much information people are getting in researching their genealogy. I am simply in awe of Hannia, whoever you are!!! After much frustration in researching, I have finally found this forum and hope that I might have better luck here.

My great-grandfather, Basil Beszlej was born in Kosovets (then Kossowiec, Galicia) on Mar. 22, 1875, as son of Nikolai and Pelagia Beszlej (nee Tkacz). My great-grandfather died in Vienna in 1950. I am really hopeful that I could find out more about his heritage and his parents and ancestors. I know very little about his life in Kosovets. He left around 1900 and lived in Vienna for about 30 years before moving to Czerce (District Jaroslaw, now Poland).

I hope that someone can give me some suggestions about finding out more about the Beszlej family. I have no idea if he had any brothers or sisters. I know that his father was born Dec. 18, 1844 in Kosovets but not much else about the family, particularly about my great-great grandmother.

Does anyone know how I might find out if there are any people with the name of Beszlej living in Kosovets today? I would love to find some living relatives and would be eager to to go to Ukraine. Unfortunately, I don't speak Ukrainian, so it is a challenge for me to read the cyrilic writing and do much research on site. As well, any suggestions how I could go about researching into my great-grandfather's roots in Kosovets, to go back in history and find out more about his ancestors? I tried FamilySearch.Org, however, I am not quite sure how to access their records. Finally, does anyone have any ideas where I could research the actual history of the name Beszlej??? It doesn't sound very Ukrainian to me, to be quite honest.

Any help or suggestions would be truly appreciated, I am very eager to find out more about my great-grandfather and my ancestors!!! Thanks for reading my post!
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Old 9th August 2008, 20:51
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Welcome hedgehog!
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GGrandfather Basil Beszlej (dob* 3/22/1875)
Βасиль (Vasyl) Бешлей (closer transliteration would be Beshlay)

GGGrandparents Nikolaj Beszlej (dob* 12/18/44) & Pelagia Tkacz
Микола (Mykola) Бешлей i Пелаг╕я (Pelahia) Ткач (Tkach)

* actual date was baptized, appx within 10 days of birth.
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Your ancestral village Kosowiec was founded in 1680.
At that time it belonged to the Kingdom of Poland. It suffered
several ferocious attacks from the Tartars. From late 18th century
to 1919 wies/village Kosowiec was hamlet
size, as it is today. Grodek Jagiellionski was both the POWIAT/
county-adm district and the GMINA/judicial-tax district > Lwow
was the regional capital > Galicia/Halyczyna Province,
administered by ethnic Poles for the Austro-Hungarian
Empire. The filial Roman Catholic Church for the hamlet
was Grodek-Jagiellionski and the filial Greek Catholic Church
was in Lubien Wielki**. From 1919-1939 (Interwar Period)
your ancestral region became a part of Reconstituted Poland,
which had technically not existed as a geopolitical entity for
the previous 125 yrs. Except for Halyczyna, note all previous
place names are official Polish names. Post WW2 Halyczyna
became a part of SSR Ukraine, under Soviet domain until
1991, when it became independent.

** Lubien Wielki was settled in the 13th century and reknowned
for its sulfur baths. Wealthy Europeans came here for spa holidays.

TODAY selo/village Kosivetz (Кос╕вець) remains hamlet size
w/a population of 348 souls > Horodotskij raion/district >
Lvivska oblast/region > Ukraine, zip code 81555. It shares a post ofc
w/selo Velykij Lubien.
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At a later date when you have put a family tree together, consider
contacting the Village Administration re any surviving relatives
still residing in the village. Although many young people have
moved to the larger cities for economic reasons, you should be
able to establish some contact w/Tkacz and Beszlej families.

Address to Village Administration:

Великолюб╕нська селищна Рада
селища Великий Люб╕нь
с. Кос╕вець
Городоцький район
Льв╕вська область╕
Укра╖на 81555
UKRAINE
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LDS has fimed some GC Church Records.


Have you ever used LDS films for research?

Very economical.

To locate nearest convenient center:
FamilySearch.org - Family History Centers

Title
Metrical books, 1785-1876

Authors
Greek Catholic Church. Kosowiec (Gródek) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of manuscripts at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for Kosowiec (Gródek), Galizien, Austria; later Kosowiec (Gródek Jagielloński), Lwów, Poland; now Kosovet︠s︡′, Horodok, L′viv, Ukraine. Text in Latin with some headings in Russian.
Record group 201, series 4A, files 2681-2682, 3148, 3150-3152.
For some years the records of this locality are mixed with the records of other localities.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Kosowiec (Gródek) - Church records
Poland, Lwów, Kosowiec (Gródek Jagielloński) - Church records
Укра╖на, Льв╕в, Городок, Косовець - Метричн╕ книги
Ukraine, L′viv, Horodok, Kosovet︠s︡′ - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Russian

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 2001

Physical
on 3 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 201-4A/2681 Births 1785-1842 - FHL INTL Film [ 2270165 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/2682 Births 1842-1876 - FHL INTL Film [ 2270165 Item 9 ]
Volume 201-4A/3148 Births, marriages, deaths 1842-1843 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1846 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1848-1849 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289523 Item 4 ]
Volume 201-4A/3150 Births, marriages, deaths 1850-1854 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289523 Item 6 ]
Volume 201-4A/3151 Births, marriages, deaths 1855-1860 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289523 Item 7 ]
Volume 201-4A/3152 Births, marriages, deaths 1862-1864 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289523 Item 8 ]
Volume 201-4A/3152 (cont.) Births, marriages, deaths 1864-1865 (includes other localities) - FHL INTL Film [ 2289524 Item 1 ]
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Records that are between 75-100 yrs old and not available thru LDS can be obtained
by making an inquiry at Lviv oblast Archives. It is more inexpensive to hire an experienced
native w/gd references. You can communicate w/Archives in English, but they will answer
your inquiries in Ukrainian. There is no prepayment at Ukrainian Archives.

State Archives of Lviv Oblast
[Derzhavnyi arkhiv Lvivskoi oblasti]
13 Pidvalna St.
79008 Lviv
Tel: (0322) 72-00-30, 72-07-14
Fax: (0322) 72-78-70
E-mail: dalo@mail.lviv.ua
Director: Viacheslav Ivanovych Kutsynda
Deputy Director: Petro Ivanovych Kravchuk

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Important resource for Galician/Halyczyna Research.
If you are not familiar w/this site, make sure to browse
before going on and doing anything else.

Genealogy of Halyczyna and Eastern Galicia
Genealogy of Halychyna and Eastern Galicia

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Old 9th August 2008, 22:44
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The surname Бешлей is intriguing. It is Ukrainian, but
I can't figure out the root. At first I thought it was possibly Tartar
or Turkish, but just am not sure.

PS> You have some heavywgts in your clan???

Beshley Vasyl V. / Бешлей Василь В.
Chair of Astrophysics of Ivan Franko National University of Lviv

The V is patronymic for given name Vasyl.
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Old 9th August 2008, 23:53
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They have no records in The Regional Archives - they are in the Registry Office in Doroshenko St. And to get any reply from them you should sned your inquiry together with its certified and notarized translation, and a document to confirm you a relative of the preson you are interested in!
PS I once used to pick up mushrooms near this village...
Hannia, why haven't you checked your favourite source? There are 9 Beshlei persons registered in Lubin Velyky.

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Old 10th August 2008, 07:44
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Smile Re: LDS

Thank you Hannia,

I am truly amazed by you! The information is marvellous and certainly a welcome addition of the facts about my ancestry that I am collecting. A question about the LDS films? I gather I need to view these at an LDS research center? Or am I missing something on their site? Salt Lake, unfortunately, isn't an option as it is a bit too far away. But thanks for that information. I am actually surprised that Kosovets exists to this very day.
As to the name Beszlej, I suspect, but this is merely a guess without any evidence that it might be Hungarian.

A Beszlej in as an Astro-Physicist? That would certainly be impressive. Clan, that's funny. Right now, we're a pretty small clan, so finding some relatives would be exciting.

Do you know where I might be able to hire a person for a day or two to act as a translator if I go to Kosovets myself? Any contacts in the Lviv area of someone reputable would be welcome.

Once again, thanks for your reply!!! Any other info would be sincerely appreciated.http://www.ukraine.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Old 10th August 2008, 07:48
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Irina, thanks for your information. Is the office you are referring to, the State Regional Archives that Hannia mentioned?

Mushroom picking??? What is the area like? I gather there must be some forests there. The Beszlejs in Lubien Vielky might be relatives. Do you have any idea what the best way to be would to try to contact them?

Thanks so much for your help!
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Old 10th August 2008, 10:26
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Where do you live and when are you coming?
I could write or phone to those Beshlei families in Lubin
Meanwhile study LDS books to ascertain who of them are your relatives
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