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Old 16th June 2008, 02:32
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Rakovo? And a few other questions

Hi

my two grandparents on my mothers side are from Chukva and Rakovo. Chukva I have been able to find but Rakovo has been somewhat elusive. I've found 3 through the internet, one in the east, another in the north, and one in the south! She (my grandmother) claims both were near Lviv (Chukva at least, these days who knows how accurate her claims are...)

Also, concerning the maiden names of my grandparents, my grandfathers were both Babiak and Koziak, but grand mothers were Zhareva and Socha respectively. What is the origins (or any other providable info) of these names?


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Babiak and Koziak

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These are lemko surnames, but also ukrainian surnames too
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Lemko, eh? Is this determined in the suffix?
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Old 16th June 2008, 07:34
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= Chukva & = Rakovo > villages in Lviv Region

When did your Grandparents immigrate and where did they settle
upon immigration?

Your Grandparents were not Lemko, they were more likely Bojko or
Dolyany (Lowlanders)??? These are micro-ethnic Ruthenian/Ukrainian
groups. For your purposes this is secondary info for right now.

Grandmother provided you w/correct info. Both your ancestral
villages were in Sambir district of Lviv region. Today Chukva (w/a
population of 1,537) is still in Sambir and Rakovo (w/784 people,
located 9.6 miles NNW of Chukva) is in Starosambir (Old Sambir)
raion/district > Lvivska oblast/region > Ukraine.

I will provide you w/all details, including coordinates and maps tomorrow.
I will also include official names for both places in different historical
time frames.

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Old 16th June 2008, 14:42
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Oh, I see.

Lvivske

There are three micro-ethnic groups of Ukrianians (to my knowledge) and are all rusyns/ruthenians. They are Boikos, Hutsuls, and Lemkos.

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Is this determined in the suffix?
yes and No. It really means son of. Like my ukrainian surname is yurchak(Lemko)
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= Chukva & = Rakovo > villages in Lviv Region

When did your Grandparent immigrate and where did they settle
upon immigration?
They left during the war at different times. Met in France and later moved to [Ontario] Canada.

Thanks for all the info, this is all really appreciated. Lucky I got this info out of where when I did as she can barely remember anything these days.

Any idea on the other maiden names? Soscha being the maiden name of the grandmother from Chukva, Zhareva from my fathers side (we have no idea where they were from)
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yes and No. It really means son of. Like my Ukrainian surname is Yurchak (Lemko)
Essentially, the suffix IAK is the same thing as AK. Both are diminutive suffixes,
but IAK differs only in that it involves softening/palatalization of the root's final
consonant. IAK is pronounced as YAK.

The basic meaning of AK/IAK is diminutive, but especially when applied to first names,
it tends to have a patronymic significance. This is the example Lemko has provided.
The surname means < son of little George >.

In most cases where AK/IAK is appended to the root of a first name we can translate
it as < son of >. However, it's not used exclusively in that way, for instance when
the suffix is applied to a geographical name, the meaning becomes < one from place name >.
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From late 18th century to 1919 wies/village CZUKIEW was a fair size village
with both a Greek Catholic and Roman Catholic Church. Sambor was both
the POWIAT/administrative district - county and the GMINA/judicial-tax
district > Lwowskie wojiwodstwo/region > Galicia/Halyczyna (Ukr) Province.
administered by ethnic Poles for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. From
1919-1939 Galicia became a part of Reconstituted Poland. Technically
Poland had not existed as a geopolitical entity for the previous 125 yrs.
Unless otherwise indicated, all previous names are official Polish place
names. Post WW2 Galicia became a part of S.S.R. Ukraine, under Soviet
domain, until 1991 when Ukraine became independent.

TODAY selo/village Chukva ( - coordinates 49.4601 23.177) located
on the Oreb River/richka > Sambirskij raion > Lvivska oblast > Ukraine,
zip code 81480. Chukva was settled in 1415.

Babusia is Boyko. Chukva is a Boyko selo.

I read this article about prominant Bojko architecture.
Chukva Church, a la Boyko style, was built in 1864. See 8th graphic.
- Refine

Today this is considered a cathedral, called Nativity of Mother of God.
http://www.favorites.net.ua/ref-ukr/...2/image032.gif

Consider writing Village Adminitrator re any surviving relatives still residing
in Chukva. Communicating in Ukrainian is ideal.

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Some bicyclists making the trip from Sambir (3/4 miles???) to Chukva.
There is a museum dedicated to the Partisan Military that held their
own in this village. There are many military documents available for
research there. Grandmother may find these pictures interesting.
ХрЎніки з життя... - МасЎва велЎпрЎгулянка у СамбЎрі

If you want to put a smile on Babusia's face, mention these sela surrounding Chukva:
Blazhiv, Olshanyk, Bereznitsia, Vanovitchi, Stalkovichi, Cherhava, Ralevka, Dubrovka,
Tarhanovichi, Biskovichi and Kulchitsy, all within 5 miles of Chukva. Frequently the elderly
don't remember the recent times, but the distant - long ago time is still very clear to them.

So far I do not see that LDS has filmed this village. Will continue looking.

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