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Old 19th February 2007, 17:51
Sorochan Walter Sorochan Walter is offline
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Wink Sorochan descendants in Argentina & Brazil

I am trying to find a web-site or e-mail source to investigate possible Sorochan [ surname] relatives living in South America [ Argentina & Brazil ]; whose ancestors may have originally migrated about 1900.

A summary: My grandfather, Ivan Sorochan, was born in 1862 in the Village of Knyazi, County of Snyatyn, Province of Halychyna, Ukraine. His parents were Onufry and Anetza Sorochan. He had four brothers --- Tanasko, Ilia, Wasyl and Stefan - and three younger sisters. When Ivan was eight years old; his father, stepmother, three sisters and one brother died in a typhoid epidemic.

His oldest brother, Tanasko, raised the survivng brothers. Two Sorochan brothers, Wasyl who migrated to Canada in 1897 and Ivan who migrated to Canada about 1900.

There are unsubstantiated stories that a Sorochan of the Onufry Sorochan family, other than brothers Ivan and Wasyl, boarded a ship, by mistake, bound for South America instead of Canada. If this mishap occurred, then we may have relatives living in Argentina and/or Brazil.

We are trying to validate this rumor and need help.

There are many persons with the last name, Sorochan, living throughout the world. I suspect that there should be Sorochans living in South America as well.
Appreciate your help,

Walter Sorochan
e-mail: wsorochan@san.rr.com
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Old 20th February 2007, 01:55
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From late 18th century to 1919 wies/village Kniaze was predominantly a Ruthenian/Ukrainian village w/its own GC Church > Sniatyn was both the administrative (powiat) and the judicial/tax district > Stanislawow (Polish), Stanislau (German) Region (post 1962 became Ivano-Frankivska )> Galicia/HALYCZYNA Province, administered by ethnic Poles for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The filial RC Church was in Sniatyn. From 1919-1938 this region came under Reconstituted Poland's domain. Post WW2 until 1991 it was under Soviet domain.

The Ruthenians in the above area were mostly Hutsul, a micro-ethnic group. Google for HUTSUL and you will find lots of detail.
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Consider developing as much actual metrykal info as possible.

LDS has filmed some GC Metrykal data (1873-1900) for Kniaze (Sniatyn).
FHL Intl Film 1696790 item 3
volume 631-1/550
Births 1873-1900

To locate nearest convenient center.
FamilySearch.org - Family History Centers
FamilySearch.org - Family History Centers

PS> Be careful. There was/is another village Kniaze (Knyazhe) in Zloczow (Zolochiv) district > Lwow (Lviv) Region.

Whatever is not available thru LDS, write Ivano-Frankivska Oblast Archives.
There is no pre-payment for research. They will notify you whether they have
info you are looking for and what the cost will be.

State Archives of Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast
[Derzhavnyi arkhiv Ivano-Frankivskoi oblasti]
42a Sahaidachnoho,
76006 Ivano-Frankivsk
Tel/Fax: (03422) 4-90-77; 6-38-16
E-mail: daifo@il.if.ua
Working hours: Monday-Friday, 8:00-17:00

After obtaining lineage info, you might want to write the Village Administrator and make an inquiry re any surviving Sorochan family still residing in the village. Communicating in Ukrainian is ideal. If you know no one locally, I can recommend someone to do the translation for you.

Holovi Silkoji Rady
selo Knyazhe
Snyatynskij raion
Ivano-Frankivska Oblast
Ukraine 78360
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Tanasko could have been Tarasko????

Anetza could be a variant of Anastasia???

Ilia probably called Ilko by siblings???

There are two young men, Dmytro and Nykolaj (more likely Mykolaj) Sorochan traveling to Winnepeg, Canada thru Ellis Island. They were coming from Kniaze. Exit port was Trieste.
Mykolaj might have been anglicized to Nicholas/Nick.

Hamburg was the primary exit port for immigrants to South America.
Ancestry.com - Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934
Ancestry.com - Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934

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Old 24th February 2007, 12:41
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Sorochan family

Hi Walter:
I am the granddaughter of Peraska Sorochan, who immigrated to Canada in 1908.
I have found out she was from Nazurna, Galaicia.
her father Samual Sorochan had a brother Ivan who had a son Vasyl born in 1900, who also had a son named Vasyl born in 1931 and still lives in the village of Nazirno.
This information I got form the village mayor and he also gave an address
78265 selo hazirns
region Kolomyia
Ivano- Frankivsk oblast

Sorochan Vasyl Vasylouych

The mayors name was Mykoly Remiseyev.

I corresponed with someone fron that village taht said her Grandmother and my grandmother were sisters, I onl;y received one letter from her and despite various replys and not heard back from her,
hope some of this helps you
betty
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Old 4th January 2008, 02:41
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Question Sorochan family ancestors

RE: Sorochan families[/b]

That the Sorochan name is found in all parts of Canada, Australia and USA; and most of these descendants do not even know each other, raises suspicion that although they may have original roots from almost the same area in Western Ukraine, they may come from different clans of the Sorochans. It would be chalenging to trace all Sorochans living in what was old Austria back to 1700-1900. Are Sorochans part of an ancestor dating back even earlier than 1700?

I am interested in trying to get information about all the descendants & their Austrian roots and find out if some of these are related.

There are numerous descendants of the Sorochan family in the USA and Canada that may have come to Canada and USA about 1900 from what at that time was referred to as Austria. [ areas of Nazirna, Chernivtsi, Bukowina, Snaityn ].

Other Sorochan imigrants may have come from other areas of what was Austria about 1900 but has since become part of Ukraine.

My grandfather was Ivan Sorochan and his wife Palahna. They came from Snaityn to the Edmonton, Canada, area in March, 1900. They eventually homesteaded in Zawale, [ Andrew, Ablberta ] area. His older brother, Wasyl came to Canada in 1898. Ivan Sorochan's father was Onufy Sorochan and he lived in Snaityn.

Please help! If you have any information about the Sorochans, please share and contact me at:
e-mail:wsorochan@san.rr.com
Phone: 858-675-0190

I will be happy to share this information.
Thank you,
Walter Sorochan, San Diego, Ca. 92128
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Old 29th February 2008, 08:38
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There are unsubstantiated stories that a Sorochan of the Onufry Sorochan family, other than brothers
Ivan and Wasyl, boarded a ship, by mistake, bound for South America instead of Canada. If this mishap
occurred, then we may have relatives living in Argentina and/or Brazil.
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It was not uncommon to talk prospective immigrants at exit ports into going to places other then their
original destination, w/promises of greater prospect.

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Ukrainians (Spanish: Ucranianos) are an ethnic minority in Argentina, numbering appx 305,000 people.
Over 120,000 Ukrainians in Argentina are Greek Catholics.

The first wave of Ukrainian immigration to Argentina included 12-14 families in 1897. In early 20th century
most Ukrainian immigrants to Argentina settled in the settlement of Apostoles, in the Province of Missiones.
These were mostly from Galicia/Halyczyna > Austro-Hungarian Empire. The second wave of Ukrainians in
the 1930's, mostly Orthodox Vohlynians, settled in Chaco.

There were actually four waves of Ukrainian immigrants to Argentina: pre-WW 1, appx 10,000 -14,000 immigrants;
post-WWI to WW2, appx 50,000; post-WWII, 5,000 immigrants; the Post-Soviet immigration, which is estimated
to be at appx 4,000.
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Today's South American Ukrainian Diaspora is mainly located in:

Argentina - in Provinces: Buenos Aires, Misiones, Chaco, Mendoza, Formosa,Cordoba, Rio Negro

Brazil - States: Parana, Sao Paulo, Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul

Paraguay - Regions: in the area of Colonia Fram, Sandov, Nuevo Volyn, Bohdanivky, and Tarasivky

Uruguay - Regions: Montevideo, San Jose, Paysandu

Venezuela - Region: Caracas, Valencia, Maracan
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Have you had any luck locating family in SA?

One of our newer members, jdruziuk, from Argentina is searching for roots
in Vohlyn. He may be able to help w/Telephone Directories???

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Old 18th May 2008, 11:46
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Walter,

Have you posted your inquiry on
Ucrania.com under Búsqueda de Familiares
section ?
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