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Old 15th April 2008, 22:12
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antoniuk, manchulenko, medwyduk

I am beginning my search for the Ukrainian side of our family. Most of the family said very little about their lives before they emmigrated. The most common names I am searching for are: Antoniuk, Manchulenko, Medvyduk. These people emmigrated to Canada after WWI to the best of our knowledge. I also believe they were from around the Chernivtsi area. I hope someone will be able to help. My husband and I hope to travel to Ukraine in August or September of this year. Thank you Hannia for the idea of taking home a bit of the soil!! We could sprinkle it on the graves of Mom & Dad.
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Old 15th April 2008, 22:31
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Hello
You must know at least the years of their birth to write to Chernivtsi State Archives, or LDS libary where you can order a microfilm of Church Books
Another way is to look throgh Chernivtsi Phone book to find out if any such families live there today.
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Old 17th April 2008, 20:07
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antoniuk manchulenko medwyduk

Thank you IreneLviv. I can't check the phone books as I don't read cyrillic And I think I am too old to learn. I will check with other family members to see if they can give me a hint of approx. ages, and then go to LDS. One Manchulenko served in the Romanian army so not sure if that will help. I have also heard (all heresay) that an Antoniuk ancestor was a well known herbalist and healer, but that is another day
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Old 18th April 2008, 06:13
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Lightbulb Chances are very good that you have surviving family in the region.

As per Irene's suggestion that many peasants have migrated to the city
for work, these are Manchulenko's in Chernivtsi:

íáîþõìåîëï ÷.´. 516483 þåò÷ïîïáòí¶êóøëá 77Â2 43
íáîþõìåîëï ÷.¶. 75384 ð¶÷äåîîï-ë¶ìøãå÷á 21 4
íáîþõìåîëï ÷.ç. 40429 óôåæàëá 3Á 59
íáîþõìåîëï ç.÷. 512636 òõóøëá 255Á 68
íáîþõìåîëï í.ì. 76331 ëïíáòï÷á 31Á 175
íáîþõìåîëï í.í. 513369 âõì. çåòï·÷ óôáì¶îçòáäõ 4 40
íáîþõìåîëï í.í. 71130 âõì. çåòï·÷ óôáì¶îçòáäõ 13 117
íáîþõìåîëï ï.÷. 61773 íïìïä¶·÷óøëá 13 0
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There are 59 Antoniuk's. I have just copied the first ten.

áîôïîàë ´.´. 36651 ðò. îåúáìåöîïóô¶ 90× 27
áîôïîàë ´.÷. 515245 ð¶÷äåîîï-ë¶ìøãå÷á 29 273
áîôïîàë ´.÷. 550211 ëïôìñòå÷óøëïçï 18 6
áîôïîàë ´.ó. 20237 ïòû¶÷óøëá 21 0
áîôïîàë ¶.ä. 510424 ÷åóîñîá 47 0
áîôïîàë ¶.ð. 512914 õî¶÷åòóéôåôóøëá 38 1
áîôïîàë ¶.ð. 41582 ð¶÷äåîîï-ë¶ìøãå÷á 25 110
áîôïîàë â.¶. 510079 ëáòíåìàëá 41 0
áîôïîàë â.ó. 78837 ð¶÷äåîîï-ë¶ìøãå÷á 5× 124
áîôïîàë ÷.´. 515743 ðòï÷ áûèáâáäóøëéê 20 0
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There are only 10 Medvediuk's listed in Chernivtsi.

íåä÷åäàë ¶.÷. 516038 þåò÷ïîïáòí¶êóøëá 69 152
íåä÷åäàë á.÷. 40026 âõì. çåòï·÷ óôáì¶îçòáäõ 5 60
íåä÷åäàë ÷.í. 544116 èïôéîóøëá 45× 105
íåä÷åäàë ç.ï. 543923 åîôõú¶áóô¶÷ 9Á 283
íåä÷åäàë ì.ä. 551966 ûë¶ìñ 3 1
íåä÷åäàë ì.ë. 516344 áìíá-áôéîóøëá 13 1
íåä÷åäàë í.÷. 513410 ÷ïòïâëå÷éþá 11 85
íåä÷åäàë ï.÷. 21333 â.èíåìøîéãøëïçï 5 7
íåä÷åäàë ï.ñ. 33536 ðò. îåúáìåöîïóô¶ 92Ä 8
íåä÷åäàë ô.÷. 74764 ëïíáòï÷á 7 35
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Old 19th April 2008, 01:31
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Thank yo so much Hannia. I am just wondering, do the numbers, following the name, indicate a postal code?
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Old 19th April 2008, 08:04
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Surname, followed by initials (first initial given name, second patronymic).
Number following full name is telephone number. Next is street name and
then building and apartment #.

Chernivtsi zip codes contained in 58000-499.
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One Manchulenko served in the Romanian army??? Interwar Period 1918-1940
Chernetska oblast/region is frequently referred to as Northern Bukovina.

Chernivtsi oblast in the current composition was created in the wake of the Soviet occupation of
Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina on June 28, 1940. In the middle ages, the entire region was part
of the Principality of Moldavia. Northern Bukovina was annexed from Moldavia by the Habsburg Monarchy/
Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1775, and latter united with Romania in 1918. Northern portion (over half of Hotin County)
of Bessarabia was annexed from Moldavia by the Russian Empire in 1812. Hertza region remained in Moldavia until
its union with Wallachia in 1859 formed Romania. The Soviet take-over of Northern Bukovina was motivated as
compensation of the belongings of Bessarabia to Romania from 1918 to 1940. Hertza region was not included
in the ultimatum notes that the Soviet Union addressed Romania, but was occupied at the same time.

On August 2, 1940, out of some of the territories annexed on June 28, Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic
was formed, the 15th Soviet republic. The remainder of the territories were included in the Ukrainian Soviet
Socialist Republic — the northern part formed the Chernivtsi Oblast, the southern part — Izmail Oblast, which
later was included in the Odessa Oblast.

The protests of the Romanian population of Bukovina that found themselves under the Soviet rule brought about
serious Soviet reprisals. In the winter and spring of 1941, the Soviet troops (NKVD) opened fire on many groups
of locals trying to cross the border into Romania.

Between September 17 and November 17, 1940, by a mutual agreement between USSR and Germany, 43,641
"ethnic Germans" from the Chernivtsi region were moved to Germany. As the total ethnic German population
was however only 34,500, and as even of these, some 3,500 did not go to Germany, the obvious numerical
discrepancy is accounted for by the inclusion of Romanians, Ukrainians and Poles within the numbers that the
local German organisers had classed among the ethnic "Germans". (Possibly, many of these were partners in
ethnically-mixed marriages in which one partner or parent was truly an ethnic German and the other was not.)
Upon their arrival, the Nazi government sent over half of those surplus to the correct number of ethnic Germans
to concentration camps. Only some were freed after the protests of the Romanian government.

Throughout 1940-1941 several tens of thousands of Bukovinians were deported to Siberia and Kazakhstan, of which
some 13,000 alone on June 13, 1941. This and later deportations were based on social class difference, it targeted
intellectuals, people employed previously by the state, businessmen. The majority of those targeted were Romanians,
but there were many representatives of other ethnicities, as well. Under the Romanian during the war (1941-1944),
the Jewish community of the area was largely destroyed by the deportations to ghettos and concentration camps,
where about 60% died. In 1944, when the Soviet troops returned to Bukovina, many inhabitants fled to Romania,
with the result that the region was seriously depopulated. In demographic terms, these war-time factors changed
the region's ethnic composition. In 1940, there was roughly a ratio of 476:282:110:58:52:27 between Ukrainians:Romanians:Jews:Russians:Germans:Poles. Today the number of Jews, Germans and Poles is
statistically insignificant, while the number of Romanians has decreased substantially.

Since 1498, there has been a small Slavic population in Bukovina. In 1775, Ukrainians (Ruthenians), and Poles
taken together numbered some 8,000 (out of a total population of 75,000). In 1918, as a result of (peaceful)
migration from Galicia and Podolia, there were over 200,000 Ukrainians, out of a total of 730,000 (again, including
the southern Bukovina, where there were fewer Ukrainians). Most of Ukrainians settled in the northern parts of
Bukovina, especially between the Dniester and Prut rivers, where they became a majority.

The ethnic Ukrainians in the south-western mountain area of the Chernivtsi region belong to the Hutsul ethnic group,
and inhabit an area in the Carpathian Mountains from the Bukovinian town of Putila, extending across the Ceremus River
into southern Pokuttia (the southern part of the Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast), and further into Northern Maramuresh
(geographic region) (the eastern part of the Zakarpattya (Transcarpathian) region), until the town of Bychkiv.

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Old 20th April 2008, 04:29
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Hannia: Thank you so much. Now it is all getting exciting, at least for our family. I will now study the history to see what links I can find. And also thanks for the explanation of the phone numbers. I think I might have a link there
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