Ukraine average industrial wage

[ricknorth]

No, 199 employed in service, leisure, entertainment industries - full employment. Even in our American recession demand for labor exceeds supply, so no one pays the $6.50 minimum wage. Business has to pay more just to attract the lowest level wage earner.

Don't need all 200 plowing fields to eek out enough food to survive.

Argentina's problems don't relate to technology advances replacing workers. They relate to everything else but technology advances. Poor schools, lack of capital, poor credit rating with outside banking sources, horrible monetary procedures by their government.

[johncullen]

yurapolt, why attack nickolai the messenger, giving us a report on the tough times in ukraine in 1930s, and even if you feel you must attack him why be so vicious ? why not just disagree with what he has to say and leave it at that, all you are doing is diminishing yourself in the eyes of those reading what you have to say

[ross01]

not to put a downer on our ukranian comrades view of yearning for a return of communism - sure capitalism has it's faults but the bottom line is you are free to demonstrate and voice your opion in capitalist countries about the government and anything - if you did this in the USSR it was straight to a gulag siberia etc.

If the regime in the USSR spent there money on housing/ modernisation of factories/indutries and invested in technology and paid people what they were worth than weapons and arming other aligned communist countries then these countries now would not be the state they are.

russia of course now is one of the biggest sellers of arms to rogue countries such as iran and iraq etc.

Iam afraid it will take a few generations for former USSR Countries to bring their economies upto western standards and for improvement in wages etc to occur for the average russian , ukranian etc etc as the old former communists are still much in control in these countries.

[johncullen]

Who is this Ross01 ? how does he know so much ? why has he been hiding his knowledge under a bushel, he seems neither to be a communist or a capitalist but a critic of both systems. Is there a spark here for all senior members to investigate ? and this chap is a Junior. Ross is almost Italian for Red, I wonder is he nearly an Italian Communist ?

[StasUA]

Interesting discussion, I'll perhaps join in more detaily in the near future, but due to the lack of time, I will just present one fact that opposes what somebody previously said.

The minimum wage in United States is not $5.5 as it is officially declared.

The minimum is around $2 dollars, I know it because I live here, and I did worked for $3 and $4. This is of course, an advantage taken by private business holders of the young people that can't yet officially work, or can't work enough to earn enough.

I've worked for $4 at age of 13-14. And then for $5 and higher...

Here, in Brooklyn(New-York) there are A LOT of people, especially maxicans that work for $2-$3 dollars an hour in small shops.

And the prices did rise and are still rising highly.
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NOTE: I haven't declared my opinion yet, just pointed out one minor detail, that hardly deals with the general discussion. I just couldn't help not mentioning it (:

[johncullen]

That's what it is...all this hidden poverty in the land of the 'free' and only the foreigners are willing and able to criticise it. Most of the locals wave it aside as 'interference'