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Old 27th April 2000, 15:33
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America HATES China,

Everybody knows that.

The US policies in that direction are very aggressive. Why else do you think they are not accepted in the WTO. It is because of their human rights record - I wonder... You need a better human rights rtecord to make that accusation and make it stick.

Russia and China seem to get along very well. They see something they want - they take it. Then they get together and have a good laugh.

Meanwhile, the Chinese build a Nucular arsenal with stolen American technology ready for Tiawan. They have built bases in range of major cities. They consider it theirs and they are deeply offended that America has stopped them, thus far.

Your right, they can't deploy anywhere far, but I for one don't think that hole in their military offence will be hard to fix. For example, there are some very good/fast troop carriers around these days and we all know how good China is at building things.

I wouldn't worry about being attacked by China if I was a Russian. Everybody knows the Yanks would step in with everything they have - there is too much to gain for them not to.
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Old 27th April 2000, 19:55
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Phil, I think you're right: In the event, the US would ally itself with Russia. And Russia would find common cause with the US over Taiwan, with a little grumbling and a few qualifications. But Putin recognizes opportunity to oblige the US to create chits to call in over the long term. Hence, I think the Taiwan issue will remain peaceful, as the US knows that Putin knows that the US knows...and the US doesn't want the obligation. They'll give it away completely.
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Old 27th April 2000, 22:18
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Yes and no John,

China wants Tiawan - that's the bottom line for me.

If circumstances present themselves they will take the opportunity as it is a definate plan - not an ambition.

Nobody in the Asia Pacific would do anything. All the countries here have a policy for non-intervention. At the very least, there must be peace before they step in.

America can't beat China out of Tiawan. They would end up being attacked by both sides like in Vietnam. I think the thing stopping China would be the threat of nucular warfare (thinking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki). That's obviously why they are building their arsenal.

Anyhow, I digress - I have taken a far leap to the right.

Johnson,
Don't underestimate Russia's nucular capability. They might have outdated and unkept equipment but if it came to a race; shooting off bombs, Yanks v. Ruski's, then sure they would loose, but there wouldn't be much left - the world would be stuffed don't you think?.
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Old 27th April 2000, 22:48
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Hmmm.,

Yes anyway as I was saying hahahaha.


Hahahaha
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Old 30th April 2000, 16:42
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OK,
That's the last time I'll try and discuss anything with you.
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Old 21st May 2000, 21:47
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How many people are aware of the military coup held in Fiji by natives against the elected government. Their gripe is that the rights of the native inhabitants will dwindle to nothing and I'd imagine that is true. Looting has occured large scale and the police are not sure who thay back (it would seem - thus far). The whole Parliament is captive and the constituion has been re-written and copies are being sent to interested parties. The remaining tribal power maintained by groiups of elders seems to the thing to watch to discern the new governments direction because the people will back them, before him. The prisners are in good health and treated well, but they will die if foreigners or local forces intervene. (Australia and NZ are the only one lickly to do that), but if looting is all that has happened I doubt it - what has happened is an affront to the democratic process but not something we are in a position to deal with. Plus, I am not sure the coup was a bad thing for Fiji. The only problem is... Natives are to unsophisticated - too simple to know how to get the power in a democratic environment and perhaps they are too simple to keep the power in this case (i.e. no mandate - no further policy agenda). To me - For them life was the jungle and their kin up until recently and most of them are still stuck in this mind-set (a good thing?) and the Indaians that are controlling so much are naturally astute. Politics just isn't natural to those massive Polynisians X Melynisians (spelling).

It is an interesting case??

Agree?
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Old 29th May 2000, 16:08
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OK,

So because obviously I am the only one following this - I'll update you all.

The guy holding parliament captive has been relatively unchallenged.

Australia has been cutting ties as has the Indian government.

The President sacked the existing prime minister - because as a captive he can't do his duties - he did it accordingly with the constitution - good one, huh!

The tribal chiefs have told the guy with the captives to let them go and given him a full parden and implemented his changed to the constitution - (minus a few).

He said no, knowing as soon as he lets his captives go he is a gone'er.

The military second in command took over the whole shibang last night after rioting took over the streets.

The coup has its followers as does the rest except they have the bulk of the army.

That's all

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