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Old 18th May 2009, 05:32
Hannia Hannia is offline
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I finally figured out what your ancestral village Vegmartonka is. Don't write anything yet !!!

FYI there are 47 Kotubej and 26 Lutak still living in your ancestral village.

This is the entrance to your village cluster.

http://www.karpataljakepek.net/album...ij-Potik_8.jpg

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Vegmartonka, the name that shows up in immigration records, was the official Hungarian
name for this hamlet in the Ilosvai jaras/district, in the Bereg Megyve/Berehove County, when
this region was part of the Hungarian Kingdom> Austro-Hungarian Empire. KRAYNIA MARTYNKA
was the Rusyn name for Vegmartonka. Today it is called Крайня Мартинка (Kraynia Martinka means
EXTREME MARTINKA) in Ukrainian. It is still hamlet size today, w/a population of appx 582 souls.
Selo/village Kraynia Martinka is part of the Chornij Potik (Black Stream) cluster. It is located in the
Irshava raion/district of Zakarpatska Ukraine. From the little I could find out, it has been around
since the 13th century. From ancient times the villagers in this immediate area were never SERFS.
They were free men and to this day take great pride in their love of freedom.

Very old map of Bereg Megyve. Krajna Martonka is due East of Munkacs.
Click to enlarge. Find top of letter S in Munkacs and move cursor horizontally until u get to KM.
Atlas plate from maproom.org

The Rusyn in this immediate area are predominantly Christian Orthodox.
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Address to Village Administrator in Chornij Potik.

Чорнопоток╕вська с╕льська Рада
село Чорний Пот╕к, 153
╤ршавський район
Закарпатська область 90110
Укра╖на / Ukraine

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Each search has different elements. In your case there are some 70+ clansmen still
living in the ancestral village. Without specific detail, like names of siblings, it may be
difficult to figure out, who is family and who is not. Consider developing a family
tree, before making direct contact. You can make an inquiry at the Uzhorod State
Archives. It is actually cheaper to have a local do the research for you. One of our
members lives in a suburb of Uzhorod and has been successful in locating
data for our membership. His rates are reasonable and references are excellent.
If you like, after performing archival inquiry, he can also travel to your ancestral
village and make some personal inquiries re any surviving family still residing in the village.
He can interview family and take pix for you.

Several of our members have saved expense by sharing cost with other family members.
Others have forgone giving Christmas presents and instead have made gifts of their
family tree, the gift of knowledge and heritage.

I also encourage you to travel to Ukraine. I personally love the Karpathian Mtns.

You'll hear Karpathian birds singing and drink pure mountain spring water. And
you must take a ride on an old fashioned wagon from another time, when
there was a minimum of civilization and lots of one to one communication.

Last edited by Hannia; 18th May 2009 at 22:36.
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